Life, Health & The Universe

Finding Your Blisspot with Deborah Tyson

Nadine Shaw Season 12 Episode 2

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Unlock the secrets to holistic health and emotional wellness with Deborah Tyson, a fervent advocate for mindfulness and resilience. Deborah takes us on her personal journey, revealing how prolonged stress can derail well-being and introducing practical methods to restore peace and harmony. Her insights, enriched by personal experiences and a captivating happiness conference, illuminate the interconnectedness of mind, body, and spirit, showing us the path to emotional well-being and overall health.
Deborah shares her 30-year journey of self-discovery, driven by a desire to improve as a parent and professional, which culminated in the creation of Bliss Spot—a platform that supports emotional growth.

We navigate the digital age's impact on emotional maturity, examining how two decades of internet evolution have sparked a global awakening, offering unprecedented access to empowering information. From nurturing creativity and intuition in young minds to exploring concepts like the Gene Keys and Human Design, we discuss the profound role technology and mature guidance play in personal and collective growth. Deborah shares invaluable advice for parenting teenagers, emphasising the balance of creativity, intuition, and connection during their formative years.

Our conversation extends to guiding teenagers through their emotional evolution, stressing the importance of emotional intelligence and effective communication. Discover how early morning clarity can be harnessed for personal evolution, and take home practical strategies for managing stress, finding joy, and building resilience in everyday life.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Life, health and the Universe, bringing you stories that connect us, preventative and holistic health practices to empower us and esoteric wisdom to enlighten us. We invite you to visit our website, where you can access the podcast, watch on YouTube and find all of our guests in the guest directory. Visit lifehealththeuniversepodcastpageio. Now let's get stuck into this week's episode. For most of us, life is busy and it can be really difficult to find the time to take care of ourselves. Today's guest, deborah Tyson, is on a mission to solve that mindfulness, to improve their overall health and navigate life's ups and downs. We've just had a little preamble before we hit record and I know that we're going to have lots to talk about. So welcome, deborah. I'm really pleased to have you here and I'm looking forward to this chat. Thank you, nadine.

Speaker 2:

It's so delightful to be here and I'm looking forward to this chat. Thank you, Nadine. It's so delightful to be here and I'm looking so forward to it as well. Yeah, cool.

Speaker 1:

I also will mention to the listeners I have cicadas in the background. It's hot, it's the second day of summer as we hit record and the cicadas are having a party. We hit record and the cicadas are having a party. So if you're wondering what that background noise is, that's our nature out there. So, bliss Spot, deborah, we were just chatting, like I said, we need to hit record because let's start with what we were talking about before. We did hit record, and that was this idea of a movement to people's well-being, to helping people support their well-being, and I said, the podcast is really about getting information out there, sharing people's wisdom so that people sort of realise what possibilities there are for them. And I feel like, bliss Spot, this membership platform that you've created is really along those lines as well. So let's jump in there and see where it takes us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, great, okay. Well, stress is the world's leading disability on the planet at the moment and, as we know, stress impacts all other areas of our life, our health. Short-term bursts of stress are absolutely fine, but often gets us going or maybe gives us the adrenaline boost we need to get out of a dangerous situation. So short-term stress is fine and natural. But when we're in long-term stress, day after day after day, with adrenaline and cortisol pumping through our body, it can really lead to health issues to various degrees if we don't make positive changes along that journey. But also it can put us into fight, flight or freeze where we're not acting as we would normally with our friends and loved ones. So it can create a lot of strain on our relationships. We're not being our best at work.

Speaker 2:

So it is a very important time on the planet to address this issue and I have also had a lot of stress in my own life and I know firsthand that you do not have to deal, you don't have to live with stress.

Speaker 2:

You can actually implement tools, practical strategies and ideas, and even by changing your perspective about a few certain things, you can live in more of your natural state of peace and harmony, where you're living from your natural energy force, where we've all got chi in our body. That's our life force and when we are connected to that, we can make better decisions. We can see the opportunity in things, can make better decisions. We can see the opportunity in things. We um, we're innovative and creative and wise all those beautiful qualities that humans all possess. But it's a matter of knowing how to tap into them on a daily basis so we can respond to life from that state, rather than being reactive, which often like I often like, I'm sure, the viewers myself we've all been reactive at certain points in our life and it doesn't really make things better usually and I wouldn't be critical about that or hard on yourself either because that's often part of our growth and our journey and we get learnings from that.

Speaker 1:

But there is another way where we can be more responsive and act in a way that we're proud of ourselves, even during very difficult and challenging times which many people are facing right now yes, definitely, I totally agree with you about stress and I think that you're kind of touching mostly on sort of emotional stress like that kind of um, you know well what we, what we initiate, what we always think about when we say I'm stressed right, because there are a whole bunch of other things that that put stress on our body, like they and they compound and they all have like like, whether it's emotional stress or some kind of physical stress or environmental stress, they can still have the same sort of impact on our body and our health. But you're sort of really focusing on that emotional stress.

Speaker 2:

Yes, well, they're all related, like our mind and our body is one, and that how we think impacts our emotions, how we feel impacts how we think. How we think impacts the chemicals in our body, which impacts the physicality of our body Like it's all actually totally related and as one. And on Blissbot we have a lot of content that covers mind, body and spirit. It's the triad of health, where we look at all those aspects and when we're able to work with all of them, we can get our body into balance and peace and harmony. But we do do a lot of work around emotions and the reason for this is probably at least 10 years ago now, I went to a happiness conference that was held in Sydney and they have happiness experts from all over the world that come and speak at the conference. I think it goes for a couple of days and it was so good, so inspiring, and there was a Buddhist nun I think she was based in America and she did a lot of work in prisons and she said at that conference and these words have always stayed with me that as human beings, physically, we've come a long way. What we can do with our body is absolutely amazing dancing and running and all these incredible achievements. With our technology. We've also come a long way, and she said this 10 years ago. So now we're at a whole new level with ai and all the incredible developments there, but when it comes to our emotions, we're like babies and we've got a long way to go in that area, and I totally agree with that, like I can see in all sorts of demographics in all sorts of societies that often people, will you know, yell at their kids or take out their unresolved emotional issues on the people that they love the most. People don't understand that if we're carrying around a deep trauma that has not been healed or resolved, that is absolutely 100% going to impact your life negatively. And the first thing I tell people to do on their journey, if they're committing to living in a state of peace and harmony, um, in their natural state of health and happiness, the first thing that people need to do is to make peace with their past. If there's unresolved stuff there that they're carrying around, it definitely impacts everything else.

Speaker 2:

So, and that's all to do with our emotions. It's emotions. Emotions are energy in motion and we want to boost our energy. In our natural state, we're vibrant, we're energetic. We can't wait to get out of bed. We love our work. That is our natural state, whereas if we're carrying around these old, unresolved emotions, it's like holding down a great big beach full of underwater and that takes a lot of energy.

Speaker 2:

And so many people on the planet will do anything, anything, anything but look at those emotions. They will drink, shop, smoke, take drugs, watch tv endlessly I mean that will you know. Shopping in small doses and all those things are fine perhaps no serious drug taking but it's when we're doing them as an escape that it's not healthy for us and it keeps us stuck. But it keeps us stuck and often that's presenting in our everyday life where we cannot move forward in our career or we cannot find a relationship that's really satisfying and fulfilling to us. We can't grow and be the person that we're really meant to be. Whereas when we let go of those traumas and I've worked with many people in doing that, I'm actually a trained kinesiologist as well and when people do that, the only thing that they think is why didn't I do this sooner? Like, why didn't I do this sooner? Why was I carrying around all this stuff that doesn't belong to me? It wasn't even mine in the first place, usually speaking.

Speaker 2:

So yes, to answer your question, nadine it is about emotions, because emotions are so powerful and so little understood, whereas we do know a lot about our body and our chemistry, like better and better with that all the time, but our emotions people are often frightened of it, and I say to people the only thing you really need to go on this journey is courage, like courage to look at yourself, because sometimes it's difficult to look at the impact that unresolved traumas have had on our emotions and the way we behave with people.

Speaker 2:

But the thing is, once we look and start to clear them and make peace with them, our relationships only improve, generally speaking, if you're surrounding yourself with the right people who support you and care about you. So, yeah, I'm very passionate about that because of the beautiful positive difference that it can make, and many people are going on a personal journey now, much more so than, say, 20 years ago or 50 years ago, which means, I believe, overall, collectively, we are raising the energy of the planet through our combined efforts, and that is so exciting. It's so exciting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I've written down a few things, so a few directions we could go in, and I'm going to ask you to help me choose. But I was thinking the other day, or even just a couple of days ago, about the power of the last 20 years, really since the new millennium, where the internet has just become this massive thing. That's part of our lives and I feel like it's an essential part of that kind of um global awakening.

Speaker 1:

Oh for sure right it's pretty intense, like knowing so much and be having access to so much information, but it's like we have so much we can take our, we can take back our power because we know, like, because we have access to so much information. And you know, that's one of the reasons that I have this podcast is like to show people what we have available to us and the possibilities that we have out there, and I think that Blissbots is the same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2:

The podcast is totally empowering and I believe this is probably might be a bit extreme for some people, but I really think that technology is at the level that it is now to facilitate this global awakening. That's what it's really all about. It's not to, you know, be able to write a email a bit faster or those sorts of things. It's really to support us in our evolution. So the have like your podcasts and, uh, what bliss puts in those things all help and support with the education and letting people know what's possible and giving them the tools to get it yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

So I had I wrote down, um a note about trauma because I'd love like just to talk about that, what it means. Um, I'm just going for some options of what we could, where we could go next, um, your background you mentioned kinesiology, but also your own experiences with stress, um, which is kind of, I think, partly why you've created this platform, bliss spot itself. We could go there and just talk about what that is and then unpack some of the things that are included and also the um, the um, having the immature emotions and what happens. You know why is that? Why do we have immature emotions? You said our emotions are like a baby's emotions, like babies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we deal with each other like we can, like babies.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I'm a fledgling gene keys guide. I just have you heard of the gene keys, no, okay, well, I'll tell you about that off. I'd love to learn more, okay, have you have you heard of human design? I have.

Speaker 1:

Okay so it's kind of like an offshoot of human design, but it's called the Gene Keys and I've just become a guide, but they have. There are different pathways that you can follow and one of them is called the Venus Sequence and it's about where all the planets were when you were born and how they activate different archetypes in your life. So a little bit like astrology. But the Venus sequence is all about your relationships, but it talks about them in stages of your life journey from 0 to 7, 7 to 14, 14 to 21, 14 to 21. And it says that most of us are stuck, the way that we respond emotionally to circumstances and situations. Is that teenage, that 7 to 14 age? Yeah, because we just haven't matured properly. Can you speak to that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, when we come into the world, between 1 and 8 particularly, or 1 and 6, boys get through a little bit later than girls, but our frontal reasoning centres aren't fully developed. And six boys get through a little bit later than girls, but our frontal reasoning centres aren't fully developed yet. In fact, they're just not there in our brain.

Speaker 2:

And that's the part that can reason things. It would be like oh, dad left mum, if you're able to reason it through because they weren't getting along. But that doesn't mean he doesn't love me, of course, he still loves me. Kids don't have the ability to do that between one and eight, so they need an adult to explain the situation for them and that helps them grow maturely emotionally. But the reason why their brain centers aren't developed is because we're not really meant to learn about academics and all those things prior to that. We're meant to learn how to bond with other people, how to play, how to share. It's all that teamwork stuff that they learn at preschool which is just setting them up kids up to be a great human being and to learn about connection and, oh, all those beautiful, beautiful emotional qualities.

Speaker 1:

Creativity as well.

Speaker 2:

Creativity, intuition, which they naturally like that, and so then their reasoning centres start to kick in, which is how they're able to see the world, you know, when you're about eight, but still they're not fully formed till you're 25. So during that period, ideally you have an adult who's very maturely developed, who can talk you through those situations. That's why teenagers really need to be told no, do not go out and get drunk when you're 14. They need to be told these things because they don't have the reasoning to properly see it through, whilst endorsing them and giving them encouragement to explore the world and believe in themselves, like all those really good qualities, but as a parent or a guardian, you are like a guide in their life and they and they really need you. I was speaking to a sleep expert recently, because we're just looking at doing these programs for teenagers in the states, and she was saying for your teenager, when they're 14, 15, 16, you need to say to them as a parent it's time to go to bed. Now it's 10 o'clock, get into bed and they feel love they, because they'll stay up to one o'clock and then they'll be exhausted for the next day. I didn't realize that. I didn't do that. I've had three children. I didn't do that with them through their teenage years, but I would have had. I've known that because I thought, oh, that's a good, that's a good idea. So it's a matter of probably being a guide, but also being kind and wise and compassionate all those beautiful qualities as well. So, because so many people have not had that like parents are often very stressed themselves. Having seen my three children go through their teenage years, what I observed in primary school it's all still fairly nurturing and they're very looked after but in teenage years is often when the parents will get divorced. And I'm not saying anything wrong with that if they need to get divorced, but the way they do it is often not done very well. It's not. Those kids aren't stepped through the process if other partners come in. There's a lot of fighting, a lot of emotional immaturity with adults in the world today. But I think we have to also think well, it's a lot better than it was 200 years ago when in England, for example, they put kids down a line, you know, and a lot like things are definitely improving, but this is the next frontier for us. So it's not really a criticism of any sort in my opinion. It's just that this is where we're at in my opinion. It's just that this is where we're at.

Speaker 2:

Um, in a book that I read autobiography of a yogi by um paramahasa yogananda, he there was a quote by I think his name was charles schultz or something like that. He was saying that when we learn to evolve emotionally, when we end spiritually, we will evolve more than we have in the last four generations. Like this is a great, big, new, wonderful frontier for us, and so, for example, in this program that we're doing for schools, we're looking at helping teenagers, but also parents and teachers, so everybody's getting emotional skills, how to act in conflict. As a parent through the teenage years, your kids aren't really looking for you to be their best friend when it comes to saying no around things that are dangerous. Like I said to my children, I will let you go, you can be free. I want you to have that sense of freedom, but when it comes to health and safety, I will. I'll be right there, I'll be picking her up from that party. Uh, you know, you can call me anytime those things. We have strong and firm boundaries around. So we're with the education that's existing on the planet now through things like your podcast and what we do at bliss bot.

Speaker 2:

I believe that people are evolving emotionally, like people know so much more even than they did 10 years ago because, as you say, from all the things that have evolved because of technology and the internet even masterclass podcasts, blogs, like all these incredible things that weren't even a thing 30 years ago or so and and I noticed, if it's a good idea, it really does spread, people do get get on to it and so, yeah, I feel very hopeful about the future and what we can do, so that, going back to your question, that's why I think a lot of people haven't been guided and supported through the teenage years. Yeah, but it is changing. Yeah, yes, probably, you know a generational pill beats probably different.

Speaker 1:

It's moving quickly, yeah yeah, it's like well that I think that emotional stuff, like like, if you're not healed from that emotional immaturity, then it's easy for it to have that knock-on effect, isn't it? Like down the generations, but with more awareness, like when you say that teenagers actually need us and that can often be and I mean, I reflect even on my upbringing your parents are probably quite relieved that they've got to teenage life and your kids are a bit more independent and they might go back to work full-time, which is what you know. My parents started a business when I was nine, so, by you know, there was a lot of other stuff going on and it's like, well, they can take care of themselves, where in fact, that's a really essential time to, as you said, be there, pick them up from parties, set those boundaries and and give them that sort of support to to grow into their adult adulthood, um, and not just be left to their own devices. Because, because, um, I don't know if you know, I'm sure you do, oh God, what's it called?

Speaker 1:

Attachment, that attachment, parenting, and there's a lot of evidence to show that if kids don't have that support, that attachment, at home, they get it from their peers, and their peers aren't mature either. Their peers can't provide what that? Um well, they can't provide what they all need. You need to have it from an adult that is exactly right.

Speaker 2:

They need you to be there and just to make those opportunities too, because often they get home from school and you say I'll sit, sit down and tell me everything. That is the last thing they're going to want to do, because they're tired and overwhelmed and you know. But if you pick them up from a party, they go. Oh, my mum really cares about me.

Speaker 2:

And on the way home they'll tell you stuff what happened at the party, oh, I meant this or did that, you know, and you just keep it's. You can be there for them in a way that's non-intrusive, but they absolutely do need that support and guidance and it will break if you give it to the middle. Break generational things that have come before and you can set up new patterns for them and their kids going forward.

Speaker 2:

So it's very rewarding, and there are lots of books on that topic as well, which really helped me like how to Talk, so your Teenage Will Listen what your Teenage Daughter Doesn't Tell you. That's a really good one. I'm an Australian author.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's good to get support for yourself on that, on that, especially if you're a first-time parent and want to be there for them, and I think it's really important to think that it's not going to be bad, these years aren't going to be bad. These years are going to be really, really precious where you're helping that beautiful young person. Like the world sometimes for adults, for us, the world is hard to navigate. It can be challenging and difficult, let alone for a 12, 13, 14, 15 year old. They are trying to work out the world and, as you said, um, for example, a lot of kids at school.

Speaker 2:

Because my daughter has very beautiful counseling type qualities, so people would come to her at school and say I feel suicidal and that's she's not a trained counsellor, she's not. So I said, well, you know you don't want to break their confidence because they've told you, but really encourage them to go to the school counsellor where they can get some proper, good support. So I'm only bringing that up because, as you said, kids are dealing with very big things. It can be their parents splitting up, all sorts of things happening, being offered drugs, peer pressure, all this type of stuff. So they need you to just help talk them through those situations. Even if you're talking them through the options and then saying, well, what do you think, you can put it back onto them and that opens up a beautiful dialogue.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to be giving them or telling them what they should and shouldn't do, kind of thing yeah, they won't.

Speaker 2:

nobody likes that. We don't like that as adults, but you can open up a conversation, talk about it, brainstorm options Like that's fun and they're good life skills to have as they go forward as well. I love teenagers, so I think, yeah, it's a beautiful area, but they really do need adults.

Speaker 1:

I think that part of the conversation has worked really well into like, um, well, so we're kind of saying that us as adults and the work that you're doing with the bliss spot is really about supporting people through that kind of emotional, um, evolution and the reason that we need to do that. Yes, we definitely need to manage our stress, but, like, working through all of that emotional stuff is going to then support the future generations coming through. That's basically in a nutshell, isn't it? Because we can kind of go what? What's the point in all of this? But really, um, emotional intelligence is super important for the yeah, for us moving forward and to like evolve, yeah, evolve everything it's, it's world peace on the side of it.

Speaker 2:

You can't underestimate how important your own journey is and people always go oh it, it's genetics, it just happens. I mean there's a lot more awareness around that now, but to me I always say it's never genetics, it's energetic, like things get passed on. I see people I don't do so much kinesiology now because I've got this spot, but when I see people in my clinic I do still see some People will say I've been depressed my whole life and then their mother's been depressed. Like you know, it's often it's a pattern that's passed on. So then it's nobody's fault because we learn by role modelling and we're so influenced by our environment. But we can learn different ways. Different ways we can break those patterns and I did it for my work. I've been on my personal journey for about 30 years because I really did want to be the best parent that I could be, but also not only that, but in in the workplace I wanted to handle conflict well, you know, and their skills. I wanted to be assertive but I didn't want to be aggressive, you know.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to learn about those things and be able to make choices around them so let's talk about your, uh, personal journey and then we'll um talk more about the specifics of bliss spot and you know who it's for and how it works and that sort of thing. So you've been on a long journey 30 years. Self-discovery has it been was that one big turning point, or has it just been like a gradual evolution? Personal interest, like was it your kids that triggered the change, or the you know desire to explore?

Speaker 2:

Well, speaking for myself and for a lot of other people I believe, too, that I've spoken to or been involved with, on their own personal journey. I believe people get forced to go on a personal journey when they're stuck like people don't feeling happy and things are flowing. Perhaps you're not out there looking for all those skills and techniques, or that's what I found, but when I was 24, I opened up my first business and back in those days it was a design business, so very traditional. It wasn't like it wasn't a tech business. Um, at the beginning especially although at the end it was we did some internet pages and things like that in the very, very early days. But I found with that business I was a very passionate designer. I loved design. I loved it. I loved going to art school and then I like I like business as well. So it was kind of a good mix for me to do corporate design for clients and the business grew really quickly and within a year I had seven employees.

Speaker 2:

But I was really out of my depth. I was young. There was conflict in the business. I didn't properly know how to deal with it. I had to learn everything. I had to learn business skills, cash flow, managing chargeable hours and learning the business side. Our accountant was amazing. He said you've got to put chargeable hours in and monitor it and make sure your jobs don't go over budget and that was all really helpful from a business perspective and I like that. But from a business perspective and I like that.

Speaker 2:

But from a personal perspective, I ended up going and studying at the Australian College of Applied Psychology and we had an office in Sydney, in Canberra, a design office, and when I was there, my very first topic was or module or whatever it was was conflict resolution, and I just felt like I was home. I went wow, this is really fantastic. People don't have to be adversarial. We can learn to mediate and talk about things and find the win-win solution. And I learned so much throughout that whole time there because we did lots of things like cultural managing, change and all sorts of things to do with business and people, and I took all these concepts back to my business and it turned it around. It absolutely thrived and it was in the early days Like corporate culture is a really big thing, but back then 30 years ago it was sort of unheard of and we used to do all sorts of things to make the not to make the team really happy to communicate really well, um, and it really did thrive and blossom. So that got my interest.

Speaker 2:

But then as time went on but there was all sorts of other little lessons too I got burnout and then I learned you, you can't work 20 hours a day. You need to eat properly, you need to rest properly. So I had those kind of more fundamental physical lessons in my making. But I think a big shift was when I was going to a chiropractor in Sydney who practiced kinesiology and I had this hip that was just sort of out of balance and she worked on it for nine months and she said look, it's just not changing. And she said there's an emotion on your hip and I'm like what? That was a whole new world for me.

Speaker 2:

I was probably around 32 or something at the time and I went, oh, okay, well, and then that put me down the path of kinesiology where I looked at, uh, what I was holding on to and where I was stuck and as I was unraveling and understanding more about my past, like I would never propose that people dive into their past for no reason. It would improve the present or help us to be more present, which it did do in my case. We have unresolved childhood we can be carrying around not, we can be. We are usually speaking carrying around the emotions that we weren't able to feel then, because often we are told as a child to keep it together or to be happy, or, as children too, we're usually very loving. We don't want to be too much trouble to our parents, so if our parents are going through a difficult time, we sort of hold it all together or hold it all in and our needs may not be met.

Speaker 2:

So as I was unraveling, you know, various things around my own childhood and my body was starting to feel better and stronger and lighter, it was incredible. And then I went on a tour. I was very lucky to go on a tour with Wayne Dyer and his family oh wow, the whole tour to Machu Picchu in Peru, and we just learnt so much about energy and it was incredible, just the energy of that place in itself. But along the way I had a couple of spiritual awakenings, where you're in that state where you can't see anything else but the divine perfection of the world, and I believe that as we know more about ourselves because as we increase our awareness and our consciousness about things, we get closer to that state.

Speaker 2:

It's a journey and life is and, as you said, it's perfect in the imperfections. Yeah, we're getting to a place where we'll be spiritually awakened every single second of the day and everything's going to be perfect all the time. It's more about enjoying the journey along the way, as we just probably grow and increase our consciousness and our awareness over time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah. So that is where the word bliss comes from.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1:

It's so strong Bliss, like when you, you know, look at what bliss actually means. It's that kind of being in that divine place, right.

Speaker 2:

It is your bliss spot yeah finding your bliss spot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it really you finding your bliss spot and, yeah, doing that with the support to help you get there. Let's help you let go of things that don't belong to you anymore. Focus on your beautiful strengths, your gifts and talents, inviting more of that into your life, inviting more joy and more happiness. And it's not that I don't believe everybody has challenges and stress. Life can be. I don't want it. It's not like a limiting belief, but life, the nature of life. If you're a beautiful oak tree, there will be a storm where you'll be jostling around, but then you'll return to your natural state. So I feel, for humans, it's not that those storms are not going to occur, because they are, but we can have the skills, like a beautiful oak tree, to be flexible, to go with it and to get to the other side. We can come out of it Like we're a lot stronger and more resilient than we know.

Speaker 2:

I mean, look at one of the bliss bot experts pointed out. He's based in the uk and he works in resilience. He said something that people rarely talk about. It's all the negative stuff that's come out of the pandemic, but he pointed out how incredible humans were through the pandemic and how we, in many cases, increased our resilience and how much we've grown, and I thought he's so right. I love the way he talks about that I mean, anybody talks about that but that's a really good point that we're amazing. We got through it in the best way that we possibly could in a very difficult time where nobody really knew actually what was going on or happening. So, yeah, I think yeah, it's just humans are amazing, but it's having the courage to take those steps towards what you want to be?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, encouraged to take those steps towards what you want to be? Yeah, so would you. Let's talk a bit more about, like, what this spot is, is what, how, how it works. But, um, I guess that there's kind of two is two, two parts, maybe more um the the first thing you know, managing the life's ups and downs in your everyday life and becoming more resilient, as you say. But then there's that bigger piece of, like, self-exploration, self-evolution, awakening. Is that part of bliss?

Speaker 2:

spot, that. That is the underlying essence of it all, but we do it through personal development. Okay, yeah, what I discovered on my own journey I remember wayne dyer said um, in one of the talks that I heard him speak on was that if we do a meditation in the morning putting out our intention for what we want and then a gratitude meditation in the evening and helps us manifest the things that we want, and I did do that for quite a few years and I did manifest an incredible life, but then I stopped it. I just, I don't know why Life just got in the way and I think I had my kids were small and I just stopped it and things did really start to drop off and I thought what had changed in my life and it was that I'd not done that morning routine.

Speaker 2:

So when we wake up in the morning Eckhart Tolle says this there's this little space that we get where we're really clear because our brain processes everything from the previous day. They call it a defragging process, where it processes all this stuff and when you wake up in the morning, your brain's very clear until your mind starts to keep it but thinking about the shopping list and you know all the things we've got to do. We might even go back to what that person said yesterday. So we can. If we're not conscious about it or not aware, we can get out of bed and we already feel quite bad, you know, because of the mind takeover. Eckhart Tolle explains it like the great big engines on the Titanic, the big downstairs, where they take a while to get going, but then they're fully kicked in and they're going and your mind's, you know, just on autopilot telling you all this stuff.

Speaker 2:

So what I have done with Blue Spot is try to give people that support, taking advantage of that beautiful time in the morning.

Speaker 2:

So when I wake up, the first thing I do in the morning is I listen to a guided meditation, and breath work is huge at the moment and breath work and meditation, like meditation, is all about your breath as well. So most of our meditations incorporate breath work. Where so when you're breathing, it's stopping your mind from taking over. It's like you're saying hey, no, no, we're not going to go down that path where we're going to be overthinking and catastrophizing and mental looping for the day. We're going to listen to a nice meditation. We're going to strengthen this beautiful little window, this nice, calm state. We're going to really strengthen and solidify that and say this is the way, this is our natural state, this is the way we want to be for the day. So people get served by SMS on their phone a 10-minute meditation and then they get that sort of the mindfulness piece and then they'll get an educational piece, because this is the tiny habits philosophy, it's not the big thing that makes our life fantastic.

Speaker 2:

It's not one great part of you, through your child, that makes you a great parent. It's the thousands of kind parenting acts that you've done you know along their whole life. So the same for personal growth, and I was inspired by I don't know probably a lot of people would be too young to remember this by Brian Tracy.

Speaker 1:

Oh I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, he's sort of the forerunner of the personal development.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And he said if you just educate yourself in 10 minutes, for 10 minutes a day, in whatever topic that you're passionate about it could be how to feed fish, it doesn't really matter what the topic is, as long as you love it you will transform your life over years. And also to? I forget his name. I think it's James something, the guy that wrote Atomic Habits, james Clear, yeah, james Clear. But if you just do the habit for 10 minutes a day, even if you just do, the first step of the habit.

Speaker 2:

You'll get 37 times the growth over the space of the year. So, based on that philosophy which I believed and I was lucky because I heard Brian Tracy's ideas probably when I was about 27 I was a very I was sort of in my young adulthood back in those days and I practiced that I loved because I'm a lifelong. I loved it so and I really feel that just doing that has made me the person who I am today by just growing incrementally by 10 minutes a day. And my thing, I love to learn about philosophy and spirituality and personal growth, all those types of things. So so for Blissbot, you serve 10 minutes of content a day and what you do when you join the platform, you choose the area that you would like to personally grow in low energy, relationship issues, career alignment, stress and overwhelm, anxiety, feeling alone and disconnected, and physical health. A lot of people struggle. When you're struggling with your physical body, it impacts everything else.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of like when you're struggling with your relationship. That impacts everything else. So people can choose. People will say, oh, can I do all of them? And you can, you absolutely can, but you probably just don't want to do all of them at once one.

Speaker 2:

I'm a big person that focuses, like I focus. And then when you've done that, you've sort of covered it off, you've, you've got that ingrained in you going forward. So say you chose, um, low energy because we have, uh, so you're served 10 minutes of content by an energy master, by Rachel Julie Adams. She's based in San Francisco in the States and she just does beautiful work on energy. So every day you're learning a little bit about that.

Speaker 2:

I'm actually listening to the one financial well-being by Michelle Murphy and oh, it's so beautiful. All about abundance. Like I've just learned so much because these people have devoted their life to that area of expertise and because they've researched it so well. They're bringing quotes from Bob and all these other great people, so you're really learning from their great investment in time in becoming a master in this area. And then we do 10 minutes of exercise as well, because getting your body moving is really, really important. It boosts your brain function, it's oxygen to all your cells, it helps your lymphatic process all the toxins and remove them from your body. But you do really need to move and I found in my very stressful period sometimes we just stop moving. It's a pandemic.

Speaker 2:

I think when it happened the first time, everyone thought they were going to do all this stuff. But by the time they had the second major lockdown, people just had stopped it and I think we all stopped. Online shopping was the thing feel like our real self, yeah, any lively self. So, um, for 30 minutes a day, you get a very comprehensive program. It's all delivered. You can just um, just press the link and it takes you through to the video content and you just just guided through the exercise.

Speaker 2:

I usually listen to the meditation education piece in bed before I even get out of bed, because that's 20 minutes, then I just do my exercise and then I'm done and dusted, yeah, in those three areas. So that's the idea of Bliss Spot. It's kind of the little and often, and the incremental growth and covering off the pride of health.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so that goes for 28 days. Do you do like one topic for 28?

Speaker 2:

days. So it's for 28 days, but during that time you'll get the same meditation for a week.

Speaker 2:

So, you'll get four different meditations oh, and you get prompted to think of three things you're grateful for. And a meditation, a sleep meditation yeah, and you're different meditation at night. So over the space of the 28 days, you'll get four different one per week because it's nice to repeat, listen to them and then move on to something new. Yeah and um. So over the space of 28-odd days, you'd probably be exposed to maybe 14 different authors, experts, yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2:

They might offer a body of work for seven days, like 10 minutes of seven days in a row, four days or three days. But it's all curated, so it all makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, wow, that's really. Yeah, quite nothing else out there like that. Right, it's like a person, it's like a personalized program really yeah, and it's the thing.

Speaker 2:

Personal development is people usually don't have time. They don't know where to start. A lot of my friends say, oh, I'd love to do meditation, but oh, you go to the internet. There's so many. Which we, where would I? Which one would I choose? They just don't know. So we have 80 global experts from all around the world who contribute to BlissBot and, like me, they've got their own story about. Like some of them, they couldn't sleep. Or a shift worker and she ran into a tree at night coming home and then she learnt everything about sleep. So that's all packaged up into a beautiful course. It's things like that. So. Or anxiety the psychologist who talks about anxiety shares a lot. He learned from his own personal journey those kinds of things. So it is curated, so people know they're getting things that do work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you've got 60 different contributors. How did you put 80? How did you, how did you go about putting all this together? Is it something that's evolved over time or did you have this like massive, like aha moment? That would be one big aha moment.

Speaker 2:

Vision for it. I used to talk myself on emotional mastery.

Speaker 2:

But okay, when I thought about putting together a business, I thought, look, it's really nice to have for want of a better word but it's like a smorgasbord of people that, yeah, used to and I've. I've got my topic, but life is so broad and the challenges that people deal with are very varied and many, and also the difference between being a male and a female, like in career. For women, it's often a lot about confidence if they're going back, you know, in their 40s or 50s after staying home. The men, it can just be slightly different, because so we've got males and females that contribute to the site of all different ages. It just does. A lot of them are above 40, but we do. We're actually developing a whole lot of younger experts as well to help with our teenage content, because it's a little bit more relevant to them. But my point is it's good to have a variety of experts that people relate to so, um, they're too.

Speaker 1:

So your 28 day, like it's a the bliss spot, is a membership, right? So it's not like 28 days and you're done kind of thing. It's an ongoing membership so you can have that program that gets delivered to you every day, but you also have access to a whole bunch of stuff online as well. Is that right?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. You have access to all of the course material courses, podcasts and meditations. We have a dashboard with a vision board, goal setting, a bucket list. You can measure your own well-being. We've got all these tools to support your journey.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, as well yeah, so that's amazing, amazing and and um, I'm just being nosy how did you find, how did you find all of these different experts? Are they people that you know personally?

Speaker 2:

We've been going since 2016, so it does take a long time to get together, because it's quite a big undertaking.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

But we in the early days reached out and approached people who we thought would be a good fit for BlissPod, and one of them's appeared on Oprah and they've been with us for nearly the whole time. Dr Margaret Paul she does beautiful work on inner bonding, a lot of inner healing for inner child work. And then another one has won the international alliance award for forgiveness, the global award, so she educates on forgiveness because a lot of people struggle with that. So we have attracted a lot of them are doctors in psychology and they've appeared on cnn or the morning show, lots of the shows we have in australia. We've got, uh, three very, very good financial experts that um, uh, educate in financial well-being. But to answer your question, I think as it's grown I get introduced a lot to people too and it just it's like I don't know, it's just really every person that I interview is a good fit for bliss, but it's like they gravitate towards us, the right. I guess it feels right for them too. So yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1:

So it's a that's quite a big undertaking. How do you manage your stress, uh, and your emotional resilience on a day-to-day? Yeah, on a day-to-day basis, like if you've got, you know, a successful business, like, how do you do it?

Speaker 2:

I just do, like everything that I discover, I learn that works for me. But I'm not so limited. I think all of it works for me, it works for everybody. But also with my clients, my kinesiology clients, and I've discovered along the way I share it with people, obviously. So bliss spots really founded on a lot of the things that do work for me.

Speaker 2:

So I do do the program every day. I I listen to the meditation. If I miss it. A few weeks ago I missed a week. At the end of that week I felt terrible and it's just the universe going. No, set yourself up right for the day. So I listen to a beautiful guided meditation. You could also do your own meditation. I'm a bit. I do do a bit of that as well. At the end of my program my guided meditations I do sit there and I do my own meditation because I like the feeling of that and that really supports me. And I know that if I exercise just for 10 minutes a day. That was something I learned off a BlizzSpot expert called Sabina Sloboski. She does a lot of exercise programs but she's also an expert in women's metabolism and she said your lymphatic system does not work unless you've. That's why people used to do that. It seemed like jumping on a trampoline.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, jumping's really good for your lymphatic system.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the trampoline thing, and you don't have to exercise, you know, for an hour every day, or I mean, it's nothing wrong if you want to do that. But you don't have to do these things. If you just get your heart rate up first thing in the morning and get your lymphatic system moving it, your metabolism is elevated for 10 hours as a result of that 10 minutes. So it's just kind of learning how we can create the maximum impact for the minimum amount of effort, because people are so busy. So I do do those three things and I always do a meditation at night.

Speaker 2:

If I I forget my meditation at night, my guided meditation, I don't sleep as well. It just changes up my brain weight and I get to in a state ready for sleep. And I also practice gratitude. At the end of the day I think of every day lying in bed, of three things I'm really grateful for, because it's impossible to be unhappy and grateful at the same time, like gratitude puts you in that happy state. So I use those things because, yes, I and I've had a lot of family stresses and a lot of other stuff going on, some healthy things with folks, family members and things like that not not my children, but things that do put pressure, make me feel stressed as a person, so I always look after myself with those things.

Speaker 1:

Do you find that the work that you're doing is stressful like having this platform, or not really? Or is it because you're doing something you love, that.

Speaker 2:

You have stressful moments, for sure. Tech is challenging, it's expensive, it has all its own inherent challenges with it. But because I absolutely love it, like Like I love my work, I just love all the experts around Bliss Spot. I love educating people, like I looked. When I before I started up Bliss Spot, I thought what would I do? Just because of the pure passion for it and it's educating people to make their lives easier because, when I see people in the same old situation, stuck and stressed, impacting their health, their relationships.

Speaker 2:

If they ask me and they're open to it, I love sharing an idea that could help them. It's so rewarding and that's fun for me and I love philosophy. So, yeah, it is hard, but I always say to people, if they're going to go into their own business, you have to have passion, because I think any business can be stressful and have stressful moments, but your passion gets you through.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure, yeah, amazing, wonderful conversation. I've really enjoyed um hearing your insights and um, yeah, the amazing work you're doing. Thank you so much for joining us. I think that your message is one of hope, empowerment. What else, what other words can we use?

Speaker 2:

I think joy, joy, joy into our life and bliss, and it mightn't be all the time, but working more towards that.

Speaker 1:

Working more towards your bliss spot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, your bliss spot finding, your bliss spot Finding your bliss spot.

Speaker 1:

I love it. Thank you so much for joining me. It's been really great to have you, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I feel really privileged and honoured to be here, oh thank you. Talking with somebody who really believes in the work too, and is like-minded, and, yeah, they're doing great work in the world, so I've enjoyed every moment. Thank you, thank you bye-bye for now.

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