Life, Health & The Universe

Navigating Controversy: Embracing Diverse Perspectives in Politics and Health

Nadine Shaw Season 12 Episode 4

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What if the one thing standing between you and a healthier social discourse is simply accepting differing perspectives? Join us as we welcome back Kim Kent, a money mindset coach, to explore the intricate web of cancel culture and the political landscape. We tackle contentious topics like the American election and the notable influence of public figures, including Eminem. Together, we emphasise that friendships and mutual respect can persist amidst contrasting views, highlighting critical thinking and the danger of enforced uniformity.

Our conversation doesn't stop there. We navigate the controversial waters of COVID-19 vaccinations and medical ethics, sharing personal stories and raising questions about vaccine safety, especially with infants. The rapid development of COVID-19 vaccines has sparked skepticism, and we dive into the historical intent versus the perceived modern profit-driven motives of vaccinations. Individual choice, societal pressures, and the ethical challenges faced by medical professionals are at the forefront as we discuss the delicate balance of questioning mainstream practices.

Finally, we shift our gaze to the global stage, examining the far-reaching impact of American politics and media narratives. From questioning election fraud to exploring the essence of authenticity and self-acceptance, this episode encourages listeners to speak their truths and embrace uncomfortable conversations. Through personal reflections and anecdotes, we invite you to challenge societal norms, promoting a dialogue that welcomes diversity in thought and champions the courage to express one's true self.

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https://lifehealththeuniverse.podcastpage.io/person/kim-kent

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Life, health and the Universe, bringing you stories that connect us, preventative and holistic health practices to empower us and esoteric wisdom to enlighten us. We invite you to visit our website, where you can access the podcast, watch on YouTube and find all of our guests in the guest directory. Visit lifehealththeuniversepodcastpageio. Now let's get stuck into this week's episode. Kim Kent is back with us today. Kim hello, good to have you here. So Kim joined us back in July, which I can't believe it was that long ago.

Speaker 2:

I just checked.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just checked the podcast listing and it was your episode was back in July. So Kim is a money mindset coach and we've kept in contact over these last few months since Kim came on and did the episode with us. But I invited her back on here a few weeks ago. Actually I went overseas, so it was just before I went overseas and we've scheduled in this call because Kim's well. She posts some very interesting things on her Instagram. Both work like the work money business there's lots of stuff coming up but also, um, personal, I don't know interest beliefs opinions, conspiracies.

Speaker 2:

Let's just say it so.

Speaker 1:

I was like you did a story, kim. You did a story in your Instagram account and it was around the American election, I believe the beginning of November, and you said you were just chatting about it and you said I should do a podcast about this. And so I messaged you and said you can come on my podcast and talk about this if you want. I think this is really important stuff to like bring to the forefront, um, and you accepted the invitation and here we are and now we're like six weeks later. What are we going to talk about?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it's like what are you all going to talk about? Um, triggering things and just just opinions. And look, I'll do my disclaimer. Now I remember we're disclaiming that this is purely our own thoughts and opinions and like thought leadership in that sense, have we done research? I can only speak for myself to a degree to not a degree, but it's just. We just want to have the conversation and we just want to, uh, spark new ways of thinking or open different thinking channels that make sense yeah.

Speaker 1:

So there's like there's a broader perspective of this. It's like, um, you know your beliefs, opinions, what you know, your views on what's going on in the world, based on the information that you have read, seen. But also there's this other piece, and one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you about this is like that whole idea of cancel culture and if someone doesn't agree with the same thing as you, then you have to tell them to fuck off, like, and that we that that actually doesn't have to be it, and just because I have a different perspective to someone else, it doesn't mean that I hate the other person. So, like, I think that is part of the reason I would love, like, love, to have this conversation.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how many people in the younger generation to millennials. I'm a millennial. What's under that? Gen Z, is it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm a Gen Y.

Speaker 2:

No, gen Y is millennials, it's Gen X, gen Y. Who are you? I know it tripped me out and I had to look it up. It's like because it's around the millennial time they renamed it, we are gen y, I'm a gen y, but it's okay. Yeah, and then and I don't remember the fucking years that it is, but I'm born 1991, I'm a millennial, okay, and where was I going with this cancel culture? This actually came out. I like this. It's um, it's apparently like the gen zed's having a whinge.

Speaker 2:

Not like, if you're a Gen Z listening, I'd assume you wouldn't be someone who would actually be a part of this cancel, cancel culture. I can't even say it whatever. Like it's because, like they tried to cancel Eminem, like the the Gen Z's complained because it was not the Millennials, because us Millennials are like fuck yeah, we love Eminem and I think he said he said something in his recent you know his new album he brought out. I think he's only released the abracadabra song. I should know this.

Speaker 2:

I'm like a die-hard Eminem fan but at the same time, like my husband is, so like I just like listen through him but he, I think he gives shit to people, like not knowing how to identify as male or female and I know that's a touchy subject. But they tried to cancel Eminem. And it's like if you wanted to try and fucking cancel Eminem for his opinions, you should have done that back in the 90s when he started like he's just talking oh, it's just, it's hilarious. So this cancel culture is coming from like a victim mentality of like you can't say that it's so offensive, it's, it just doesn't work because it makes if you're trying to cancel someone you're thinking you're right and they're wrong, but they're right and you're wrong, so it's, it's the fucking same thing it's hard, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

because it's like, um yeah, like you don't want to hurt someone's feelings or offend them, but like we need to draw the. I feel like we need to draw the line somewhere between where we can well, it starts to come down to choice, right and and pushing someone into choosing a particular belief and like if and separate, separation or segregation, where if you don't as I said before, if you don't believe the same thing as me, then we can't be friends.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what they're doing. I'm like we can be friends because everyone's got their own opinion. Do you know what this starts? I know this isn't. We'll get to the crux of guys. What we're going to talk about is like the election, the American election and all of that stuff. Um, but it it became really prevalent, prevalent, obvious. I don't know, is that how you say uh, in 2020 when as if you're watching the video, my inverted commas an accidental virus went on the loose. So, but the thing is we saw it create divide, because that's what was wanted. The more we can divide humans and push people against each other, the more power they have. Right, because we are stronger all as one.

Speaker 2:

And we saw this in that time. And what was so beautiful is we had some friends who were like completely opposite beliefs to me and guys, if you see where this is going, I am a complete don't put anything in my body. I don't trust anything that the government says, all of that side of things. And we had friends who were like lining up for their fourth, fifth jab, even though it's already been proven to not be safe, but they're like we still love you. But then we had like we could just have different opinions, so that that was really beautiful. And then we had the other side, which was like, like I was fucking demonized because I didn't go with the status quo, like so I was getting cancelled from my family, I guess you know it was my family.

Speaker 2:

I was a black sheep. Do you know what is so funny now? Because I know they wouldn't be listening to this now. It's been how many years and all of the things that have been proven. My ego so badly wants to be like I fucking told you so. But I am of higher self and I am of love most of the time, and love at the highest level. Like what is it going to prove if I had to go and treat them like they treated me? But yeah, I feel like that 2020, during that time there was a big um, shit was happening to create divine and if you didn't believe, on what? Like you literally were one side, left wing, right wing or whatever one side, the other side, and it was horrible. Like it's just yeah yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1:

I haven't talked very much to a lot of people about my choices, my family included, because of this, because I was too scared to go there to have a conversation. As you mentioned at the beginning, I'm not like massive on research or anything, so I'm not going to go and read a whole bunch of medical papers to prove that point. But like from me, from my personal perspective, it's like well, you know, I didn't accept the glucose test when I was pregnant. Yeah, me either, because I didn't believe that I needed it. I don't have a flu vaccination because I don't believe I need it. And I was exactly the same before all of the controversy came out about like whether you should or shouldn't or and everyone doing, you know taking the vaccination, or a lot of people choosing to take the vaccination, or being coerced, whatever you want, look at it, before the coercion, I was like I don't need it exactly um and so that it was like a no-brainer, but it gradually, over time, you saw this change in um, what it was all about like.

Speaker 1:

If you, it was because you didn't care about other people and how selfish you were. If you chose not to do it right and like you said, I'm so selfish.

Speaker 2:

I'm so selfish.

Speaker 1:

And so am I. And do you know what I did Like I didn't go? This is what I believe in rah, rah, rah. I just pulled right back and in fact I've observed in myself over the last little while I put up some really strong like just shut down boundaries yeah um, which was kind of a protection mechanism, um, for fear of being rejected by those other people that might not have agreed with me yeah, yeah, it's that fear of rejection.

Speaker 2:

The thing is, though, and I need to say this, I'm not saying I'm lucky because I created my life, but we created a life where we didn't have to get jabbed for work, like I had my mum and my brother and one of my sisters. They didn't want to. It's almost like they could tell something was sus, but they desperately needed the money, but they couldn't, and they didn't have enough personal power. Like my husband, he works for himself, but he couldn't technically go. He installs doors, he's a carpenter and he specialises in doors and he's like unless people wanted me over their house, like you know.

Speaker 2:

But we were in a position where I'm like well, you can sacrifice the income to not have to put something in your body that you don't want to do. So I know there might be, you know you might be listening and be like, yeah, I get you, but I didn't have a choice that I agree with. We don't want to stay in victim of. I didn't have a choice. You always have a choice, but I want you to look at see what's actually at play here. If you don't have a fucking choice, is it actually about your health or is it about control.

Speaker 2:

So, which is what this is like, the main theme of when we started talking about the election soon. It's all about that higher governing body. That's not universe and god, not energy like the, the human that's trying to have their control and create xyz. But look, I guess I want to state this for the record because it just makes me feel better when we got shut down and like you're just being selfish and you're going to make other people sick. I have. I think I had covid once. I never tested because my hubby tested, because he was more like I. I'm just going to test.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't like we had it once.

Speaker 2:

My family, everyone who's gone and got jabbed, has had it so many times. They get it over and over again. My question will always be and this is why I will not vaccinate my child why would I put something in my body that is not 100% safe? And it literally says it on the pamphlet. Covid didn't even have time. They literally tells it says it on the pamphlet, covid didn't even have time. They literally were like we're testing it out, we haven't done tests, it's supposed to be safe and you shove it in your body. And the fact, even though we haven't necessarily done well, I've done research on these. There are websites and platforms out there where you can actually go and see the adverse reactions to vaccinations. The thing the government have to by law, that, but it's not promoted it's not yeah, so you have to be able to go find it.

Speaker 2:

And then I know it's hard because I've had family say like you know, my sister-in-law she's like she knows my stance on it all and she's like, look, they just had a baby. And she's like you just need to wait the six weeks because, you know, my niece in her family died of whooping cough. So we're getting whooping cough jab and you know, when they see that side of things and it's just, it's such a it's a whole conversation and it's all based around. It's fear-based and, like I look at it, hundreds of years ago we didn't get jabbed to prevent things. And if we got sick, you got sick Like if we're going, you got sick like if we're gonna get sick, we're gonna get sick.

Speaker 1:

I don't know like I was. I was vaccinated when I was a kid and actually I vaccinated my children up until the age of four because I like we didn't know.

Speaker 2:

Then I was like no, any better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we didn't. Um, and I feel like like I've always thought, if someone chose like I had a friend you know who had her, she's had her kids a lot earlier than me and she chose not to vaccinate and I was like, well, that's your choice, Like it was never a thing, but some people were really funny about it and like I'm not letting her children near my children if they're not vaccinated. And I'm like surely the child that's vaccinated is meant to be safe, protected and I'm like, surely the child that's vaccinated is meant to be safe, protected.

Speaker 1:

So how can they like it's the child that's not vaccinated that's essentially at higher risk? Exactly, I never got that because I wouldn't do it to my kids, but I was talking to my husband about it the other day and it was like I. I said it's like originally when they first invented vaccinations. The intention was pure. It was to help people and, like so many things, gradually over time, someone, organizations, you know people who want to make more money, start going. How can we make more money out of this? It gets bigger and corruption starts to creep in.

Speaker 1:

I think that a lot of the stuff with vaccinations that seem to be an issue, from what I can understand is that they're adding things like heavy metals that never used to be in them so you know, it's like penicillin, right, penicillin was mold in a dish originally. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't reckon they do it the same anymore. I don't think so. It's all because it's cheaper to make a chemical one. But if you think about it, even when we were kids you'd only have one or two here and there. Now, if I was to put my child on the program she's having, like in that six-week one there's like nine or so different things you're vaccinating against. Now studies have there are studies to say each of them separately have a level of safety, but no one's testing. When you jab all nine of them into your six-week-old bloodstream and you, okay, I'm gonna, this is a triggering, this is. Take this as a food for thought, not a. I'm saying this is right.

Speaker 2:

Sids, sudden infant death, humans, animals, things just don't die to a degree, we don't just die. Okay, everything has the right to live energetically. Then one of the highest causes of SIDS is asphyxia, which is suffocation, and then when you start to look at it, uh, doctors and and people will never say you know, your baby just had, or your kid just had, its jabs and a week later SIDS died. They won't ever connect those dots. But if nothing else was like, everything else was fine, and you put something in the body that's literally every pamphlet. The doctors don't even give you the pamphlets anymore. I remember reading the pamphlets and it would say risk of all these symptoms like anaphylaxis, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah death. So there, literally, is the warning on there, but they won't say that the death is related. Let's get in, because I'm like now we've opened up this can of worms, let's get to the big can of worms that we can of worms.

Speaker 1:

And again, this is the reason I asked you. I said to you before we hit record I feel like I want to live vicariously through kim kent because, um, you just say as it is and I absolutely love that, I'm a bit of a chicken right when expressing my opinion. I have actually like I think it's probably some kind of wounding, you know, from being told to shut my mouth.

Speaker 2:

Sit down, shut up. I had all that too, and that's where it's scary, because you have to break away from it and I've pissed people off. I've loved people along the way, but you can't have a loss without a gain and you either want to people please or please yourself, and it's like as long as you do it from love and do your best and stay true to yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, or something offends us. You know, if we are offended by something, then that is kind of like it's soil for contemplation, isn't? It's like what actually is that? That's that's made me so triggered yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's, let's take a pause all right, so we're going to get on to the, the hot topic that's on everyone's lips. We're actually a little bit delayed because, um, uh, when, when I first, as I said, it was at the beginning of november. We're now in the beginning of december because, um, it was around the beginning of November. We're now in the beginning of December because it was around the election, right, the American election. I find it quite extraordinary how much of a global event this was. Yeah, like, given that it was an American election, like, given that it was an American election, and yeah, it's like centre stage for the world, and so many people in the world are sort of saying, oh my God, what's happening.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Well, america is the place. All of our media really comes from America. Anyway, I actually thought about this and I know it's quite global, but I think Europe and in the, the uk, they do have their own kind of bubble, but I think about it american, like the reason they have independence day, right, it's because they broke away from the commonwealth, right, and we're all part of the commonwealth. And it's so funny, interesting, whatever the word, ironic maybe, I don't know what the word is, but they're the ones so independent and they're the one that's so powerful. When I like isn't the whole point with, like the monarchy wanted to keep us in the commonwealth? So there's like all the control through all the countries, and interesting, it's very interesting yeah, and like we're talking from a really a non-political stance.

Speaker 1:

Just you, you know a couple of Joe blows having a chat about what's going on.

Speaker 2:

It's a political background. I've recently learnt some stuff and I want to feed into this after we talk about the election, because what was actually happening in Australia and I actually started to email some MPs for a current bill that I didn't hear anything. I'm pretty sure it hadn't passed. But we'll talk about that after, because I want to point out especially if you're Australian listening to this and we get so consumed by America, so I put up a post, let's talk about this. I put up a post and I don't want to put up. I love being controversial and I love being tinfoil hat, but I still I say I'm not a people sleeper. What does that mean, tinfoil hat? But I still I say I'm not a people sleeper. What does that mean? Tinfoil hat? Tinfoil hat. Have you not heard about tinfoil hat? No, it means like, where does it come from? It's like put it on so, like the aliens or the Hauer can't read your mind. It's like a. It makes it like, of course, there's fucking aliens.

Speaker 1:

If there wasn't aliens, I wouldn't have even been a thing if there weren't aliens oh, I know, like that's, we just have to open our mind.

Speaker 2:

But we're in a day, we're we're in an age of awakening. We're literally entering the age of aquarius. Pluto has gone from capricorn into now the 20th cycle of aquarius, new age, all of that, um, but you're either super conditioned and you're stuck by that. And look by if you're in the baby boomer generation I have a lot of clients who are in that and they're open, but not my family. So I think it's so stuck in a way. And the older you are, the longer you've had your beliefs running the show. So how aliens aren't real, the government has your back or whatever you want to believe.

Speaker 2:

It's harder to be a bit more open-minded because you've got to battle some beliefs that you've held for so long anyway. So where was I going with all that? The election, oh, not into politics recently have, oh, tim for hat. I was like where did this go? So I don't want to put up too much stuff. Do you know why? Is because I want to help as many people as I can with their money and it's all about empowering them and breaking out of a system keeping them broke. And there's people out there who might not agree with me, who I don't want to scare away because I still can help them with their money. So look, I'm still people pleasing right.

Speaker 2:

But I put up a post-Trump election and you got elected in and all I put up was a picture of it. Like I was at the pub, it was on the tv and I took a photo of it and I was like I am happy that Trump won and not I didn't say it's because it's Trump. Trump represents the party. And I said because I truly believe, like he can't be bought, like he has money, he doesn't need the money. He can't be bought. He is not controlled by high world order, he's not part of the puppeteering. Well, he's not being puppeted.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what the term is and to me, it excites me that breaking the old chains of this higher governing body. I'm just interested to see now. Then that's all I said. And then I got. And then the next slide. I said I wonder how many people followers I'll lose. I had way more people like agree with me, which is cool. I had a few people be like okay, bye, I'm like sweet, like. And then I had a few people be like how do you support someone who wants to take away female rights? Now let's talk about this, because I looked it up.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about this, because I looked it up, that's the one thing that most people have said All media and all these women were Australian.

Speaker 2:

By the way, I'm like this actually has nothing to do with you because it's in America. Based off what I looked up, my research is that they have abortion laws in America. That is based off the state government. They make the rules. So I'm assuming it's because there's certain states that think that, say, abortion is illegal. And so what he's saying is I'm just keeping it to the states, I'm not taking over and making it federal law. It's a state law. So, people, but the way the media because the media is owned by Hollywood, which is owned by I World Order media only tells you the narrative they want you to see. Oh, he's taking away human rights. I'm like the democratical party was in before he came in and it was already those laws. So weren't women's rights already fucking taken away, like people? That's where people aren't seeing it. But he's being demonized in on a platform saying he's taking away women's rights.

Speaker 2:

Now, I'm I'm not against abortion. Before I had a miscarriage back in the day, I would always have been open to it if I wasn't ready. Nowadays I would only consider abortion if I knew my child was like, for lack of a better way going to be born a vegetable, like really bad conditions that they could still live and I'd have to consider it. But I've had two miscarriages and I have a baby, so I it. But I've had two miscarriages and I have a baby, so I wouldn't. It would be a lot harder. So I'm not anti-abortion, I'm not pro-abortion, I'm well. I'm just like do whatever fuck you want. That's your choice. If you think of Australia, we have separate abortion laws in every state. Neither in some states, yeah so in australia.

Speaker 1:

So like how are we any different?

Speaker 2:

and then people I've had said that back, I don't want to get into a debate, but hey, look, have you looked at it this way? And they're like yeah, but that's making women who get raped needing to cross state lines. I'm like that is really fucking unfortunate. Okay, but if he like, there's just so much to it. But this is one part of the whole election. But if the democratical party still got voted in, they weren't changing the laws, unless I missed something, because they already had those laws. So there's that part.

Speaker 2:

And then they're like but how can you support a rapist and a pedophile and I don't know whatever he's been slandered for? Okay, okay, fair enough, but how the hell is he still able to run for presidency if he's got all those claims and accusations against him? Doesn't make sense. Otherwise he and he's the one when he was in power. Well, he was running. Like the last time he was whatever it's called when you're in power just your president. He exposed all the epstein what was the first name? Jeffrey, yeah, yeah, epstein, which is all like the child sex trafficking ring. He's trying to like expose all that, because that stuff is all hidden by the other parties or all those people who are part of. Like I call it the high world, or do you call it?

Speaker 1:

whatever.

Speaker 2:

Even with.

Speaker 1:

COVID right, 100%. I remember he stood up and he was like I've just taken some ivermectin and I'm fine. Yeah, they shut him down and said he was a lunatic.

Speaker 2:

Look, he probably is a lunatic. He's a fucking president. All of the people with sane heads on them are like I don't want to run for presidency or for prime minister because I've got better fucking shit to do with my time. No wonder we always give shit to our leaders and think they're clowns. They're the ones actually going out there and becoming leaders.

Speaker 2:

So, if we really have a problem, get off your ass, go, do what you need to do so you can be in power, or just sit there and have your opinion and get triggered. So it's do you see what I mean? Like it's about taking responsibility, but I'm, trump is just the. He's just the figure. For like, this is how I look at it and it's really expansive and you could think it's woo-woo's, fuck, but it's all energetic, everything is big. We're bigger than this fucking planet, like there's a whole universe out there. He's just the face. He's just happened to be the person and he can. I've heard him talk. He's I'm like he can't even finish a sentence, nor can I really, so maybe we're the same. Um, he's just happened to be chosen. However, what was chosen, or it's happened, and he's representing a way to break the norms, like he's reducing income tax. He's changing, he's taking the fluoride out of the water if you believe fluoride is good for you.

Speaker 2:

Like our water supply, our government is literally poisoning us. Fluoride calcifies your pineal gland. Your pineal gland is your connection to higher self, right. And so just coffee. I fucking love coffee. I am sipping cacao right now, but I do love myself a coffee like cafe. The coffee and fluoride calcify your pineal gland. We drink the water, we brush our teeth with it and like the fluoride, and we're addicted to coffee which is caffeinated, which is a drug, but that can be legal how about this?

Speaker 1:

let me just put. Let me just um like, because a lot of people be like oh, fluoride, it's good for your teeth. Um and uh, there are countries that have banned it and it's been proven to to be poisonous. And, interestingly, my husband and I have had this uh experience recently where you go to the dentist and you decline the fluoride and they don't go. Oh, why is that? Is that? You know it's never so good for you. They just go, okay, because they know. They know it's bad for you, but they'll still if you don't, if you don't.

Speaker 2:

Decline it, they'll do it. Yeah, yeah, no thanks, they'll just give it to you.

Speaker 2:

I know, see, my thing is I do believe there's still studies to prove that. It is like there's something to do with your teeth. Right, it does support it. But on your toothpaste labels, on the packet, it says if consumed cold poison hotline. And I'm like you don't even like you're consuming it's in your mouth. I don't use fluoride toothpaste, but when I have gone to the dentist you put your thing in my head. I'm like, if I spit this out and hopefully don't absorb it, it's like that one time a year that I get hardcore fluoride on my teeth but I probably would just now decline it. Um, but it like there's so many other things you can do to support your teeth stuff there's a.

Speaker 1:

There's stuff, there's tooth. Without going off on a tangent toothpaste now that's got hydroxyapatite in it, which is um remineralizes your teeth.

Speaker 2:

It can actually reverse cavities so, like I saw a real it's always real as you see things now, because you see the interviews and I saw this interview, something around that but she talked really slow and I was like this is boring me, but she was talking about how she had this stuff it was that big name and and reversed her cavities. So there you go. We need a sponsor like we need a company so they can sponsor us while we promote them right now.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that was like off on a tangent, but it was like it's relevant. Yeah, it's relevant because there's a whole bunch of stuff that goes on that that is kind of like widely accepted, and someone like donald trump comes along and goes actually, because he's questioning the fact that, yeah, now look at it this way.

Speaker 2:

I put this up after I did that story. I got so much response and I got in my car and I did like a talking story and I was like, at the end of the day, if he's that fucking crazy and he's that bad, why the hell did America vote for him? And they don't have to vote. They choose to vote, which means he genuinely has to win votes. And when you look at I'm starting to learn this you have like the red, they're red and the Democrats are blue. The blue states are like your New York, your LA, california, and if you think about them, they are more progressive and that's where a lot of money is. And if you do have a lot of like it's the Democrats, it's like the keep the rich rich and it's similar to the more money you have personally, the more power you have, the more freedom you have anyway. Hence why I kind of do what I do to help you get in power with your money. But of course, it makes sense that they would vote New York and Hollywood. You know they're going to vote towards the parties it's going to. It still supports them.

Speaker 2:

But if you look at the screen, like almost every other state voted red, which is the republicans, and what else? In my opinion on this is, yeah, you have to actually win the votes, because in australia you get fined if you don't vote. You can go in and donkey vote if you want, like you can waste your vote, but over there and what is there? 300 million people well, this is what I said. There's 300 million people take away 100 million for kids. I said there's 300 million people Take away 100 million for kids or like underage, and maybe I don't know. At least half are old enough. 150 million people are old enough to think and choose for themselves and they chose. They weren't coerced by you're going to get a fine if you don't vote. It was like they genuinely wanted to vote, so he got voted in. And there's actually stats I've been seeing this stats on all the past elections where, from the year that Trump did win, where the Republicans did win, and then the year after, the blue was so much higher.

Speaker 2:

But then there's been proof to come out that there was election fraud, but no one fucking talks about it. The media doesn't share it because the party that they wanted in is in and now they were like this was such a big movement and there were so many votes that they just couldn't get away with election fraud and I can't even say it election fraud and they cut down. I'm thinking and getting so passionate that I can't get my freaking words out. What am I trying to say? Um, because of the new laws that came in, because of the election fraud, it just made it harder if they were going to try and do it again. That's going with it. So he genuinely got voted in. So if you actually hate him one, he represents a party. He's not the person and he got voted it just. I'm like the people spoke and what can you do?

Speaker 1:

What do you think about RFK? Some people might not have even heard of him, and we're like my husband and I well, darren especially, he kind of follows stuff a lot more closely.

Speaker 2:

So I know enough for it to support my belief on how I'm not like pro-Trump, hate the Democrats. I'm pro-break the high world order, break the systems that are trying to govern us and keep us little people small. And it just supports it because I well, I watched, I kind of got the summary of the three-hour Joe Rogan interview with Donald Trump and he listened to three hours and JF he talked about JF is it RFK.

Speaker 2:

I'm like JFK. Rfk that's a whole nother topic too. Why do you think jfk got assassinated? Break shit back in the 70s or whatever it was like back then. They could assassinate easier. Anyway, rfk he has.

Speaker 2:

He was part of the other party, an independent party, and he was like I know, I'm no matter what a democrat or republic is going to win. It's kind of like here in australia, no matter what labor or liberal is going to win, um or it's still in his time running, it's going to be that way. So he's like I might as well join the party. Why try and beat him when I can join them? Join the party I believe in. And his views on health and this is one of my big things is about health, because that's my background and how. The fluoride in the water they're just trying to poison you and keep you small and your vibration low. He wants he's part of that remove it out of the water. He's got to do with the health. He's all about the health. And then I've seen things shared where the old um what I don't know what her title was but it's like the like, the, yeah, the husband or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she was this overweight, like this. I'm not judging, I'm literally describing. Everyone's just got to get that. Everything's a judgment. Anyway, if I tell you you look beautiful, I'm judging you, but you won't take offence. So everything's a judgment. But she's fat, overweight, looks unhealthy, okay, and she was chief of health.

Speaker 2:

And then you see the guy who's coming in, who's in his 50s, rip oh 70 70, 70 yeah, because he looks 50s and look at him and I'm like that's, that is health. Health isn't pop some meds from the pharmacy. Big pharma just want to control us. It makes so much money, blah, blah. That's another rabbit hole. But it just makes sense that if rfk coming in it aligns with the party that's trying to break out of the old high world. The high world conditioning it's the high world order. Yeah, it makes sense. I could be sounding so fucking loopy but I'm like you could argue it, but I could always come back with that. You can make sense, but does it not? You can literally see how it's.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I find it really interesting that we like we people, just people in general we can have such different perspectives and like we you and I we receive information in our social media feed right based on our interests, so it's really easy to assume that everyone thinks the same as us, right? Because we're we're getting fed the same yeah, just as someone who thinks completely opposite will be getting fed content that supports them. Where was I going with this, I don't know. But yeah, I don't know where I was going with that actually, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's talk about this, right, let's talk about this. During the day of the American election election, a bill was passed in the lower party, or whatever it's called in australian parliament, so not the higher, the main one and the bill was to the misinformation and disinformation act, which means us talking like this right now. If this was to get put on facebook and the bill passed, we could go to jail, because what they want to do is it's like a opinion, because, yeah, because they want to try and look out for people, so there's not disinformation going around. So what they're wanting to do, if you think about it, is well, everyone needs the same information, but then they get to control the fucking information. And why do you think there's such an uproar? But that obviously isn't it interesting that that passed in this in the lower house very fucking quickly, while all the media was on the election.

Speaker 2:

Now, as well, as I was emailing members of parliament because I forget, I follow someone and she's like you have to remember your local parliament. They're here for you, for the people, and it is so easy to think sometimes I don't have a voice because you know I'm not in parliament, but that act they're meant to be, especially in Australia's democracy meant to be a democracy. Women like we, the parliament, the senators, want to take on our opinion because they want to win our votes. So, um, I'm pretty sure the bill hasn't gone through, because I I don't know, I haven't looked, but I would have heard more of an uproar. So it needed to pass in the major house and liberal wanted to pass it. Labor 100 no. And then there was a couple other seats.

Speaker 2:

We just needed those last two seats we needed and I was emailing them like they would have got so much stuff to say if you guess or no but the thing is if, if they're trying to pass an act where us and I run a business through social media like if and I get where they're trying to come from and how they're marketing it to try and keep us safe. But that's not what they want to do. They want to take away our voice and we're not a democracy anymore.

Speaker 1:

Right, there's no freedom it's not become like more like communism 100 communism is it like then, if?

Speaker 2:

you look at it, isn't the whole world trying to fucking be communism? Because we're just, they're just puppet the puppeteers. But again, this is, it is conspiracy. But because it's not true, but it's almost like it makes sense. So that's why I question it. I'm like, yeah, it doesn't surprise me when you say shit like that. It doesn't surprise me, it makes sense.

Speaker 1:

But this whole you know, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist, like even that. It's like, well, no, actually you're just someone who's entitled to have an opinion yes, and it's not necessarily the same as someone else's but you just get labelled conspiracy theorist. Weirdo, fucking, you know.

Speaker 2:

What's the like conspiracy definition? Right, a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful? Boom, fucking nailed it. If you genuinely don't believe that there's like that's the whole thing. They're trying to do things unlawful but make it look good then there's a whole conversation when, with all the vaccine stuff like Pfizer, owned by Bill Gates, he's not a medic, he just wants. There there was, I heard this right and again. This is like hearsay one. There there was, I heard this right and again. This is like hearsay. Um, whatever, when in court, when it's just like it's not fact, it's just um, what's that word? But yeah, but again it makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Speculation, or speculating, yeah, where they're putting things in mosquitoes, like they're cloning mosquito, like they can clone animals, they're I don't know how to say it and this. So I could really butcher it. But when I heard it I'm like doesn't fucking surprise me that mosquitoes that go out they carry, but like either vaccines and like gets people. Because I'm like what the fuck is the point for mosquitoes in the first place? Anyway, frogs can eat flies like they don, like they don't, I don't know. But then malaria is the highest grossing. This was probably pre-COVID, I don't know now, but I knew then that malaria is globally the highest grossing or profiting disease, because once you have it, you're sick for life and you're going to keep getting medication. Yeah, I'm like, isn't that interesting? Also, how's this? I heard this saying create a vaccine and you have a patient for life. Oh, it's what they're putting in you and like there's no proof. But that's, I won't, we won't go down that.

Speaker 2:

Um, I listened to this really cool podcast. It was on a dvd, it was like a recording of it, and there was these doctors literally slamming vaccines. But they're like when we went to school in the like 70s, it was more, you learned everything about it and there was, it wasn't trying to be as harmful, but now doctors aren't, are just being told they're good, trust the research that you don't have to read, administer it, don't even give the warnings and the side effects to your patients. But then you actually you don't. How's this the government and pharmaceuticals take? Like when you choose to get a vaccine or choose to get something, they I don't know how to say it, but they're like they don't take responsibility. But you acknowledge that first you have a disclaimer.

Speaker 2:

It's a disclaimer. So I just want people to. I want to empower women or people to think for themselves and question everything. Trust your gut, because your gut feeling or your deep knowing will question things. But it's your head that's conditioned and might be going oh but no, but yeah and that's fine, but actually I want to go. I want to come back. I'm on such a tangent. I fucking love this. I'm just like ripping it. I want to come back to that misinformation bill.

Speaker 2:

Ah, yes yes, before that got passed, under 16 year olds are now banned from social media, right, yes, it has been to a degree. Of course, it's fucking great, and if there's been people out there who've lost their children through bullying, all of that, and I think back, we didn't really have social media and we were on the cusp social media. Myspace came in when I was in year 12 and you did feel depressed if you weren't in your best friend's top eight or if someone moved you. It was all about. So I get it, but look at it this way they're marketing it to you as we're keeping your children safe.

Speaker 2:

Isn't it interesting that if that misinformation bill was to pass and you were to put misinformation up on social media based on what they say and you could go to jail? If you're under 16, they can't put children in jail. So isn't it? I'm questioning, isn't it a convenient or coincidence that that it's like let's just ban them because we want to bring in this misinformation act and it's too messy? Of course fucking teenagers are going to put up misinformation, right, yeah, yeah, and it stops them doing that and stops them doing the whole jail thing. Anyway, that to me.

Speaker 2:

That is my own thought base it makes sense. I still believe it's still safe. Like I'm grateful, like my child doesn't have to if she like wants to get in on it. Sorry, like, if anything, though, it's protecting you from being fucking absorbing all the shit that I don't want you to absorb. But I have to say I was talking to a friend and she's, like we're here worried about the misinformation bill in the Trump election, where the misinformation bill was already passed in the UK. I was there and apparently this is on the Trump election, where the misinformation bill was already passed in the UK. I was there and apparently this is what was said and I don't know, like how true this source is, but to me I'm like makes sense. Wouldn't surprise me. Apparently, pedophiles are now out on the street because they need to make room in jails for people who are putting up misinformation and I'm like how the fuck does that make sense?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, there's a whole other thing where pedophiles aren't like. It's inappropriate to call a pedophile a pedophile. Aren't they now need to be referred to as child-attracted adults or something like that? What the fuck? That's from my husband.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I don't like when you first said it goes down different rabbit holes when you first said I haven't heard that, but when you first said they're not allowed to be called pedophiles anymore. Part of me I always look for the positive, I always look for okay, because there are, there are a minority of the pedophiles out there who have had it put on them and they actually didn't do the deed okay. But this is the one area where you're guilty until proven innocent. I have actually had I can't share too much but I have had not first-hand experience, but very close second-hand experience where it was allegated but then proven wrong. But then you always wonder but then that person has, even though in court they were not guilty, it still creates an ickiness. Yeah, and I get that for someone.

Speaker 2:

If you are actually weren't and you just caught the wrong end of the deal or because the justice system is like you can. I've watched how to get away with murder I'm like fucking hell, you can make the justice system work for you. Uh, even if you are guilty. But you know what I mean. So there is that level. But then there's the people who are genuinely the pedophiles. Why, like what are we hurting their feelings? They don't like. Do they not want to identify that as?

Speaker 1:

well, it's more. It's like it's basically, it's a, an identity. It's an identity. I'm a child attracted.

Speaker 2:

But that sounds even worse. If children and people have identity issues, it is from their childhood, because they didn't feel there is a generation of I don't know who it was, because I grew up with a bit more old school parents and I have friends who have parents 10 years younger, 10 years junior my parents, but my age well, I'm 33 now we kind of don't really. The only identity really is gay or like I. I want to be with women or I want to be. If you're a man, want to be a man, then I feel like there's a generation below. It's the whole non-binary. I am a male, female.

Speaker 2:

A lot of trauma has gone on. There's been some trauma. I'm just hoping maybe the kids now who are like eight and up, I want to be furries and shit and like my child's two, I'm just hoping maybe the kids now who are like eight and up want to be furries and shit and like my child's two, I'm like can she be the generation that skips that? Because you're not a fucking animal, if you're not, and if you go to and this is what the bullshit thing is you go to school and you're like I just like you meow all day. The teacher can't tell you to get out of their class because it's discrimination. I'm like. You're literally like this is a school for humans, not for cats. Go to the fucking or doggy daycare, I don't know. I know if anyone wants to.

Speaker 2:

I'm very one-sided with this and I acknowledge that. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm right for me. I don't want to make anyone else wrong, but if you question me, if you want to come back to me and justify your reasons why a child, an eight-year-old can identify as a cat, fucking, go to town. Please enlighten me, because it's like it doesn't make sense when there's more that like your gender identity. It's just there's a whole lot of trauma there, there's a whole lot of shit to unpack. It sucks. There's just so much to it and I don't think we have enough time we could. I don't know. There's a whole nother topic. I don't know enough about it. I don't know. I might be too offensive on that side. I don't want to offend anyone, but I definitely have strong views. But let's go back to like if your kid identifies as an animal, get them therapy. Do something, because it's not right. Otherwise, if your kid identifies with an animal, get them therapy. Do something because it's not right, otherwise birth a cat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not sure where that has come from, but it's yeah strange.

Speaker 2:

It's probably just fun, Like if I was to do. Actually. I watched this reel and there was this woman. She's American, she was this black woman, because you know, paint the picture funny, like just you know how they got that funny tone and she's like. She's like this whole like identifying is something she did this way funnier than me. She's like you know what? I'm gonna join this bandwagon. I want to identify as a tree. When I die, I want to come back as a fucking tree. I want to identify as a tree. I don't want to identify as a mother anymore, because if I identify as a tree, I just want to chill for a couple of hundred years and then after that I'll come back as the fun uncle which is like yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1:

And I was like oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because I do identify as a mom and now I'm like I don't. There are times where I don't want to fucking identify as a mom. I don't even want to identify as a 30 year old. I'm like in my 20s, still without saggy boobs and I can still fit into clothes that my stomach can still fit into. Do you know what I mean? Like that's how I want to work this out. Can we do that? Can I identify as a 22-year-old that just has more wisdom in her face and more money in her bank than when she was 22? 22.

Speaker 1:

Look, I'm going to apologise if I genuinely have triggered someone, but look, yeah I think part of the part of the desire for me to have this conversation with you, um, was because, because of exactly what I said at the beginning, it's like we're entitled to our own opinions. We have chats, you know, and that's how you figure things out, like, but it doesn't mean that you hate on.

Speaker 2:

Well, maybe the cat people, I don't hate on it, I'm just like what are you doing? So it's not hate, it's like you know what it is Makes sense. Yes, you know what it is makes sense, doesn't make sense, makes sense doesn't make sense to me. I live a life that makes I want to align with things that make sense to me.

Speaker 1:

That doesn't make sense, yeah yeah, but also, you're entitled you like you're, you're entitled to have that in. Like, as I, as I said before, I like sometimes just keep my mouth shut and don't say very much because I don't want to, you know, hurt someone's feelings, um, and I like I totally admire you for having the balls to, to like, actually speak up and you know you've got a successful business. You do spend a lot of time online, but you were still able to express what you thought and risk you know, potentially risk losing, yeah but they were never my people.

Speaker 2:

And you know what? I've been in business for a long time and I was always the kid that talked out of line. Well, did I talk out of line or was I just being my authentic self? But based on the conditioning and the rules? When we grew up, I was outspoken, talked out of line, all of those things. So I've always challenged it and I was always so insecure so I hated it because I was like, well, I just want to speak my truth but I don't want to be hated and I'd push friends away and all that.

Speaker 2:

Now you, you know, you do the personal development, you do the work, I realize things and I learn things about myself. I learn to love myself and accept myself and I realize if you genuinely don't like what I have to say, you were never going to be my person and our friendship was never going to be authentic because even if you were nice to my face and I said and I was myself, especially after a couple of lines you would be the one going behind my back bitching about me. So if I lose you, I lose you. If I don't lose you, my best friend, some of my best friends still my bridesmaids I got married six years ago. Most of them I've been best friends with since high school and they're like yeah, that's just Kim.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure I pissed them off, but they love me. Actually. Daniel said this and I think either Caitlin one of my, my best friends, caitlin or Jenna I think it was Daniel and then I'd talk to my friends about it and they're like yeah, they're like you're annoying as fuck, but you're lovable. That would trigger, based on my thought processes, but I'm lovable. I'm like oh, you hate to love me. I love it.

Speaker 1:

I've got you in, reeled you in, but I think that, like one of the things for me that shines through about you is, yeah, that authenticity, and it's not like you're not just being some, you know, brash human that's out there to try and provoke people and, like, get a rise out of people.

Speaker 1:

No, fuck, no this is who I am, this is what I believe in, and you know, take it or leave it, yeah, but yeah, my, my, uh hope is that just this episode might um make some people feel uncomfortable. I don't know. Um, hopefully not, but yeah, no, I hope it does that we that no, yeah, maybe yeah, uncomfortable just means like my comfort zone believes that the government has my back.

Speaker 2:

You're saying this. This makes me uncomfortable, but there'll be a part of it. You'll listen. Guys, if you're listening this far, you obviously have enjoyed this, because people, if they didn't like it, they would have fucking fuck this. She's cracking, she's loopy. I'm not listening to her. They would have stopped listening. But it's, if you're uncomfortable, it's because your body's telling you like, hey, that could be something, or I do align with that, but my old truths keep me confident, comfortable and safe in here. So uncomfortable it's just.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's stirring the pot, because my intention is it's not to stir the pot. Where you want to cause a rise out of people, it's how about you start questioning? I want to empower you to question things that don't feel aligned, but your brain tells you they're right and you're in this limbo. And then you know if we have the people pleaser gene, which most of us do, us millennials, gen Ys and Gen Xs's, we don't want to say anything. Like yourself, perfect example. I'm literally analyzing you.

Speaker 2:

You don't want to, you don't? There's a part of you that doesn't want to lose people, because a little girl inside of us doesn't always wants to feel loved and accepted. So I don't want to stir the pot and cause shit, and we do. We stay in that space. But if you're okay there, you're okay there. I've been in times where I'm like I actually fucking have to say something because otherwise I've got inner turmoil or my husband's copying it and he's like Kim, I'm so fucking sick of hearing the same shit from you. Go talk to that person or go, because you're like festering on it, because you're scared to like say something, so just go say it.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean yeah, um, Something that I think is quite interesting is like you could have a facade, right, We'll call it a facade. I'll just call it a facade. You know someone sees Kim. You know she's got this great business, she looks good, she's happy, happily married, got a beautiful child. You know living the life and you know we paint this picture of you, the same as with me and Nadine. She's so fit and healthy. You know she's living her best life, doing her podcast, doing all of these things. And then you tell someone something about you that doesn't align with their beliefs, values, and it's like, oh, I don't know if I can like them anymore. They're not the person I thought they were and just like I just kind of I don't know if challenge is the right word, but just suggest to people if they have that experience, yeah, just ask yourself why does it really matter, does it?

Speaker 1:

does it really matter, like can't you just see all of the other things that you saw?

Speaker 2:

before it. Um, one of my old coaches said to me once and this is when Daniel and I were struggling we thought we're very happy now in comparison to where we've been in the last three years, and I think I may have mentioned it on our last podcast where your sister died and you became an alcoholic. Maybe we need to do another episode and we're really good now, but it's been a fucking journey. But my coach this was a couple of years ago and ago and she's like look, if he's triggering you or he's or you're, you're triggered by him because you know, take ownership, don't blame. Is it a you problem, a him problem or an us problem?

Speaker 2:

Most of the time when we have that, it's a, it's a me problem, like so if someone sees kim ken and like, oh, she looks all like this, hopefully I don't try and do that too much. I keep as real as I. But my brand is I am sophisticated but I'm fun and I am approachable and I want to look good, because I fucking feel good when I look good. But I only style my hair. Like once a month I need to style my hair. It's like now you can see I'm like yes, this should last me a week because I'm so fucking lazy with doing it. You that, whereas I got me this.

Speaker 2:

If I say something that you're, as you said, makes a funny feeling or whatever, like, is it a you problem, a Kim? Is it Kim Ken's problem that you feel that way? Is it your problem or is it between the both of you? Most of the time, it's your own problem, unless I genuinely have been like Nadine you're a fucking bitch and I hate your hair and I hate your top. That's a Kim problem, not you, if that you know. I don't believe any of that. By the way. I was just like looking at you now and like wearing a pink top. Let's pick on that. Do you know what I mean? You just have to ask yourself Is it a you problem, them problem, or together problem? Yeah, then act accordingly and sort your shit out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and if yeah, yeah, it's all just about. Yeah, just a bit more self-acceptance and that, as you said, you know the freedom of information bill that was passed, and like not being able to express, like, do we want that? Do we want, do we really want a situation where we're not allowed to say what we Well, then why the hell?

Speaker 2:

This is what you question. Sorry to cut you off because I'm like this gets Like why does that need to be a bill in the first place? Why do you think it's not happening? Because they're losing control over us? Yeah, like ding, ding, ding and we're very. We see a lot of america, obviously. We see a lot of australia. From what I've seen which, again, because I don't really scroll like I know enough, but I don't know enough because I don't want to spend the time trying to find this information.

Speaker 2:

I've got better things to do with my life but I'm pretty sure, like this, it's like switzerland or one of the european countries. They're like it's like there's some european countries that aren't. They're like it's like there's some european countries that aren't being part of this, I guess, higher world order. Everyone still wants power. There's still power trips and all that shit. But I think what isn't like switzerland, is it switzerland, the place that there's like no taxes or something, one of those, I don't know. It's like they're progressive for the people and it's like the people in in control of these countries are actually listening to the people and they're breaking out of.

Speaker 2:

I just call it high world order, but there's always going to be a high world order. People need to. There's I have beliefs on this and this. You might think I'm loony and this is probably major conspiracy, but I'm like that. With aliens there's connection to our other source of life. There's like there's a reason why they, people, have needed to have, like, the high world order, needed to have control over us, because us humans, as a being, we're very powerful, so let's dumb everyone down and condition them all and keep them doing the do and be work of people. Like there's all of that thought and it just doesn't surprise me, but I don't, I don't know enough. There's a lot out there, I know enough, but I don't know enough to what I can say. I could be like it could be complete nonsense, but to me I'm like I would explore that wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1:

If that's true, you know like exactly, and we're all having our own experience as well, right? So everyone's every single person on the planet's perspective is different, and but we're all contributing towards the whole. Yes, that's the way that I try and see it. So when I see someone, you know that I don't really resonate with.

Speaker 2:

I just think they're having their own yeah, experience of 3d life or whatever that's what they meant, that's what they're here to experience and that's their level purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome. Well, that's like an hour. I'm like I feel like I could keep going, but we have to save it for another one.

Speaker 1:

Um, thank you so much. I've really appreciated this. Um, I think we've yeah, we just about peace, and love and harmony, really ultimately, right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, the ultimate thing is love. Love is duality, love is love like love. It's not love and hate. It's hate and this and like, like and dislike, but love is the unconditional love. Everything is about unconditional love and our soul's purpose is to unconditionally love and that's why we can have certain people in our lives and things in our lives that super trigger us. But it's like how can I unconditionally love this, stay in my power, my own power? So, yeah, that's what I want. I want people to question. Everything come from unconditional love, have unconditional love for themselves. It's easier said than done, but it's part of the journey, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1:

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