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The Hidden Meaning Behind Your Teeth - The Holistic Tooth Fairy, Meliors Simms
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In this episode you'll discover the unique interplay between dental health and emotional wellbeing with our featured guest, Meliors Simms, also known as the Holistic Tooth Fairy.
As we navigate our ever-changing world, we discuss how astrology offers a lens through which we can understand broader societal shifts and personal transformations, and the need for us to be able to confidently express ourselves.
We delve into the challenges we can face because of the societal standards of beauty and the pressure to achieve the perfect smile, and how this can significantly impact self-esteem. Meliors encourages listeners to understand the deeper meanings behind dental issues, illuminating how unresolved feelings may manifest as physical symptoms, making it essential to address underlying emotional struggles.
Meliors draws from her expertise in holistic practices and metaphysical wisdom to reveal how our teeth and oral health reflect not only our physical condition but also our emotional state.
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Welcome to Life, health and the Universe, bringing you stories that connect us, preventative and holistic health practices to empower us and esoteric wisdom to enlighten us. We invite you to visit our website, where you can access the podcast, watch on YouTube and find all of our guests in the guest directory. Visit lifehealththeuniversepodcastpageio. Now let's get stuck into this week's episode. Today we're joined by Meliorz Sims. I decided to savour that pronunciation because I think last time we spoke we rushed it, so Meliorz has been a guest on the podcast before. If you haven't checked out that episode, you can find it on the website under Melior's profile. It was in June 2024.
Speaker 1:So Melior's, also known as the Holistic Tooth Fairy, uses a revolutionary approach to dental care that merges physical and metaphysical healing, as well as coaching individuals. She's also written two books the Secret Lives of Teeth and Calm and Confident in the Dental Chair. Meliorz, it's a pleasure to have you back. I'm super excited for this conversation. I'm not going to tell them what we're going to talk about yet. Let's have a bit of a catch up. I'd love to hear how you're going, because when we spoke last year, June 2024 was when the episode was released, and that was around the same time that you were releasing your second book, so I'd love to hear how that's all been going and what's been happening in your world in the last almost 12 months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the Calm and Confident in the Dental Chair has been launched and it's selling on my website and on Amazon. It's a book for people with dental anxiety and so, yeah, I think for the people who it's the right book for, it's really the right book, yeah great and yeah, it's a funny one, isn't it?
Speaker 1:The old dental anxiety, because it's like you would almost, you'd almost say that everyone has has it in some, some kind of way, shape or form, and I certainly have had my own experiences with it. So, but I know that you've worked with some clients who have had some kind of quite extreme issues and you had those um, some some experiences yourself which has kind of led you into this field of work, and I love that. Um, you know you talk about that metaphysical element of um, what our teeth can actually and our gums represent in terms of our emotional lives and our sort of you know, the deeper layers of what's going on in our, in our psyche, I guess would you say that, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that was the subject of my first book, the secret lives of teeth, which, um, yeah, that book continues to have a life. It's actually. I just signed a translation deal with a Dutch publisher to have it translated into Dutch, which is very exciting, that's very cool, well done, congratulations. I'm hoping there's more languages to come and yeah, so I'm more focusing on that metaphysical side of things than on the dental anxiety things so they're quite different, are they?
Speaker 2:I haven't read your second book, I've read the first one, so there, so you don't go as much into the metaphysical on the second book well, and so far as anxiety is kind of a metaphysical yeah, yeah, but it doesn't um, you know the things that I think make the secret lives of teeth really special and unique. You know the tooth archetypes and the way that the meridian system flows through the mouth and the um, the way that, uh, childhood traumas can appear in our mouths, embodied as physical symptoms in our adulthood, as cavities or root problems or receding gums.
Speaker 1:That's, yeah, that's unique to that metaphysical approach yeah, it's fascinating and very relevant, like when you, when you read the book. Um, if you, if anyone who reads the book, has had any issues with their teeth, even, like I, broke a tooth. I think I talked about this in our um first recording together. I broke a tooth when I was about nine. I got, I stood behind a girl at school and she kicked up into a handstand and kicked me in the mouth and broke a tooth and, like you know what that tooth represented was actually quite relevant. And in and my little boy, who's now 10, when he was about the same age so, yeah, probably around the time that we spoke, he also knocked the same tooth and broke it and I was like oh, that is really interesting, like what are the chances?
Speaker 2:well, our children are often mirrors yeah. Yeah, you know they're energetic mirrors and so it's really common actually for me to see mothers who report their children having the parallel or mirror image teeth issues with them Really.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, amazing. So we could talk about that a lot more, but if anyone's interest is piqued, we did talk about that a lot in our last episode, june 2024. Today, we're going to be talking about something that is totally related to our mouths and our teeth, but with a bit of a different spin on it. So you've been sending your email out to the people on your email list and I'm one of them email out to the people on your email list, and I'm one of them and so I read those emails diligently and one came up and I think it was probably only two or three weeks ago and I was like, oh, this is so interesting because this is so relevant to something that's been coming up a lot in conversations that I'm having with different guests in all different walks of life at the moment. So, if you don't mind, I'm just going to read the first phrase or the first sentence. That or one of the first sentences that was in the book. So you said, as a follower of current events as well as a predictive astrology, I'm anticipating some interesting times this year.
Speaker 1:Astrology, I'm anticipating some interesting times this year. It's two sentences um, as well as helping people with oral health matters. Oh, it's important to help people with oral health matters because of difficult times. Sorry, I'm kind of um changing it a little bit. We need more people who can think clearly, as well as diverse leaders and activists, and this is where I thought this was really interesting, because you're talking about changes in the world that are happening right now. That's something I would love to dive into with you an astrological, a predictive astrological perspective on those, some of those changes and what's going on, and the need to be able to speak up and the need for leaders and leadership kind of values, I guess and activists.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and how is is so can really influence who feels confident about speaking up, and your own feelings or capacity to speak is really influenced by your oral health.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so. So I guess there's a bit of an interplay as well, isn't?
Speaker 1:there is like that, like if someone feels powerless, how that might manifest in stuff in the mouth, yeah, yeah, yeah, and how that can be sort of transformed, and why it's important for us to pay more attention to those things. All right, so let's start at the top with these um shifts that you, you've been um witnessing, like we've all been witnessing it on the news. We know, we and, as you, as you said, um the world seems to be going to a hell in a hand basket, which is quite an appropriate um description, I think so yeah, let's start there.
Speaker 1:Like what do you see? What, what um? Are you thinking about any events specifically? And how does that astrologic, that predictive astrology, that astrological perspective, sort of fit in?
Speaker 2:well with. I'm a I'm caveat, I'm an extremely amateur, uh, an astrologer, and um, I follow a lot of astrologers online and and um, and try and, you know, make sense and interpret for myself, but, um, uh, for years, astrologers have been talking about 2025, and particularly the first six months of 2025, as being like the one to watch, like, like, things are going to change. There's all of these big outer planets which don't change sign very often. All of them are changing sign in the next few months, and so it's very obviously a time of transition and change from the astrological perspective. And then, I think, the sort of tipping points around climate change and the environment becoming more widely experienced and recognized and acknowledged than I think they have been before. I mean it, it's been a gradual process, but it seems to be speeding up this kind of exponential transformation on that level that, once again, I've been anticipating for a long time. You know, I did my university study years and years ago in environmental policy and so you know, 25 years ago I was thinking and writing about climate change and and then I thought, well, it was a long time in the future I'll probably, at the end of my life, be experiencing, witnessing it. And now, well, here it is. It seems to me undeniable.
Speaker 2:And then there's the political changes and the geopolitical changes that are going on.
Speaker 2:It's been a very disruptive time for, I think, a lot of governments around the world, a lot of people, are going through governmental changes that seem to be aligned with, um, well, how can we describe them? Populism is the probably the nicest way to say it, but, um, you know, that's very I I think, um, women and queer people and disabled people and people of colour do not come out of these, are not likely to come out well in these new political environments. So I'm seeing all of this happening and being aligned with the astrology and I'm just thinking well, we need strong leaders with alternative perspectives who are not just buying the pap that is fed to us in mainstream media, not just buying the pap that is being fed to us by these mainstream politicians, but who are able and willing to take the courage to to speak up with authentic, true voices. Yeah, I have, I have political, particular political perspectives that you know, not necessarily the same as other people who might also be opposed to the mainstream, but, um, I think we need a diversity and a plurality of voices and we're not going to get that.
Speaker 2:If it's all rich white men running the world, ah, here we go. Now I'm getting to the harder things.
Speaker 1:Oh well, they're not my target market well, yeah, interestingly, like the the mostly women that I've had on the podcast speaking about this sort of leadership, we've had the perspective of like needing to silence your inner critic so that you can speak your authentic truth. I had a speaking coach that the episode just released last week same deal. So, like being confident with your voice but like having to kind of heal those past hurts and those inner critics and acknowledge them and like work out what's going on so that we have a voice. And, yeah, it's just like there are no coincidences, right, it just is like people know that there's change and I've talked about this with some of my other guests as well and it's like, um, previously to now, that whole idea of leadership was more about business, right, and leadership was about like being in positions of power, um, for men and even women who were trying to, you know, build up their position within the workplace or, you know, their own business. And it feels like that's all shifting and leadership and what it means is changing as well. And it's like, as you said, you're the leader. Well, you're the leader. Well, you're the leader of your own life, right?
Speaker 1:One of the other guests I had, actually that was kind of her philosophy. If you're leading from your true values and your true self and you're expressing that, then you're going to be able to lead others more successfully, more, more successfully. Um, I guess where I'm going is like we're all, we all need to have the ability to to speak our truth. Uh, there's a whole bunch of other stuff that goes with that, you know, because because we, you know, don't necessarily want to be conflicting with others, but, as you sort of mentioned, we, we do need to start creating more diverse perspectives and be able to confidently share those, whether it be with our family, our community, the people we work with, or on a larger scale. So, yeah, there's definitely kind of a massive shift. I'm just looking at my notes. So let's get into some of the ways that you see in your clients, how they might be held back from speaking, from speaking, and if there's any relevance with that metaphysical um and the like, how that expresses.
Speaker 2:I work with a lot of uh women who want to or are um running businesses in the kind of healing and creative and coaching type of arenas and they feel a lot of discomfort about how to represent themselves, how to market themselves, how to talk about their work and their values in relation to their work. Um, you know, often they want to be teaching, like teaching an online course or teaching a workshop or something like that, and uh, it's the inhibitions that they have about being able to speak freely and authentically. I make those. You know. It seems to me that there's connections with the particular symptoms that they present within their mouths. Not necessarily like, oh, there's uh, you know, this kind of cavity means this kind of um inhibition about speaking up. It's not quite that direct, but it's the way that I describe it is that when you hold back your truth, when you are silencing yourself, keeping a secret, keeping a low profile or suppressing emotions, then the energy gets stuck in the mouth. This is the last kind of barrier for energy to leave your body in this kind of expressive way. So it gets stuck there and you do that enough over time and it becomes embodied in the tissues of your mouth. So it becomes embodied in your gums, this kind of repressive energy causing receding gums, for example, or um, this kind of um hiding uh things being inauthentic, it gets stuck in your enamel and contributes to a cavity. Those kind of um energetic embodiments it's, it's the body as a metaphor for what you're experiencing.
Speaker 2:And that's not to say there aren't also physical reasons for receding gums and cavities. Of course there are. But why are some people more vulnerable to receding gums or more vulnerable to cavities? Well, I believe it's the energetic vulnerability that allows the physical um uh factors to take hold. You know you could have um a dozen people and that they're all eating the same kind of sugary, highly processed diet, as most people are one way or another, and only some of them are developing cavities. So it's not the diet by itself, like what else is going on? Some of its genetics, some of its oral hygiene practices and some of its energetic. So there's all of these factors layering in, and what I find in my coaching work is that when you attend to the energetic alongside attending to the physical needs of the body, that is when this deep healing of the underlying causes takes effect in a way that stops ongoing chronic patterns from continuing.
Speaker 1:Is there, like when you work with a client, are they aware of these particular the reasons that they might be manifesting conditions in in their teeth? Like obviously they've gone down the the normal dental route and and gone. This isn't working for me. Something's going on and like you're the, you're the, you're the go-to person, but like are they, are they fully aware? Or do they have like these big aha moments like how much of this is kind of like therapeutic work and well, a lot of it's therapeutic moment work and there are a lot of aha moments.
Speaker 2:but I think more and more people are coming with some idea of what the connection is, either because they've read my book or they've found me on insight timer or they've watched a video, or they've just done so much of their own work in relation to their general health understanding these kind of energetic, physical symptom connections. Um, because there's other people working on whole body issues, uh, and then they think, well, this thing that's going on in my mouth, there must be some reason for that too, and so they go looking for a resource around that. Okay, but other people kind of come in, not really knowing, expecting me to give them advice about toothpaste.
Speaker 1:You're called the Tooth Fairy about toothpaste and, uh, you're called the tooth fairy like really, uh, classic I'm, which I'm sure you're actually able to do, so I do it all. You're the full package, yeah, okay, so we've kind of um, yeah, so that was actually really good to kind of give get a sense of, like, how some people might be experiencing those limitations, like when they're trying to share who they are. How much is it because of the vulnerability, like they feel vulnerable with what they're going to share, or is it like you mentioned in, or uh, being inauthentic, like not really sharing who they truly are? Do they kind of manifest in different ways like a vulnerability to talk about what they do?
Speaker 2:um well, I think people's unique life stories and experiences and personalities mean that there's different flavours to this, but I mean, I think it can all be summarised under the umbrella and the catchphrase that I'm working with at the moment is secret silences and suppressed emotions. But that can be, you know, feeling um unsafe and vulnerable because of um the way that you were raised to be seen and not heard as a child, or because of which wound through your ancestral or past life um influences, and you know that kind of terror of the possibility of being burned at the stake or the digital age equivalent. You know, if you speak up about these kind of spiritual things, it can feel, it does feel really dangerous. I've certainly experienced myself. I'm a little bit, you know, nervous, even doing this with you now. I much prefer one-on-one conversations on these topics than you know anyone can hear in, because it it is risky and I think, particularly with the crazy violent stuff going on in the world, it's like things can go. You know it's not.
Speaker 2:These are not unfounded fears, I guess that's what I'm saying, yeah sure, and I always will encourage people to be discerning about who you speak to, where you speak, how you're speaking, but the important thing is that it doesn't stay inside you, that you need to have somewhere that you can speak it out, even if that's writing it into a journal or screaming into a pillow or dancing around your room like doing interpretive dance to express yourself.
Speaker 1:There's got to be some way to let it out, because if all you do is just shut it down and kind of close in and the still, quiet, silent, huddled, don't look at me state, that's when it becomes embodied as symptoms yeah, okay, and actually I was um talking to someone the other day and they said look, if you don't feel comfortable doing something, it's generally because because of a vulnerability, wherever that comes from, and you can actually make other people feel uncomfortable, like if, if you are going into a place where you're not, you don't feel safe expressing yourself, it could potentially not yeah, not be safe for others to witness you doing that. I think that was kind of more you know with speaking out on social media and that sort of thing. You know, if you don't feel good doing it, then it's probably a good sign that you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 2:You'll have noticed I haven't given any examples directly related to speaking out on social media, because I actually don't think that's a particularly useful or safe or healing way to do your speaking out. It's so distorted and, um, frankly, um, what's the word I'm looking for? It's a well, distorted is probably enough. But you know, it's like, look at who owns those spaces and what their values are and the way the algorithms work and the way that comments threads run and and the lack of moderation, all of those issues. It's like talk to your neighbors, talk to the group meeting down at the community hall down the road on the issue you're interested in, and talk to your friends and whatsapp groups, um, or you know, or run your own podcast, yeah, like you're doing and create a safe space that you're in control of on a platform that you know is more or less aligned with your values, and that's really different from going on to facebook and like pouring your heart out and to just anyone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, either that or not be seen at all. Right, because the algorithm doesn't see you. Yeah, yeah, well, because it's just silence.
Speaker 2:You know, mark zuckerberg has no interest in promoting this kind of conversation that you and I are having. Does him no good at all?
Speaker 1:no, yeah it's an interesting time for sure. I mean, it's like I've take my hat off to you because you've, you've, you know, created a successful business with your website and your website and your books, and you don't go on social media at all. You don't have a presence there, and I think that that is just like the best.
Speaker 2:Congratulations well, I will say I've built my business with social media and I was very much on oh okay, yes, and there's still kind of this residual like I haven't taken down my pages. I just I don't go on there I don't answer comments. I don't post new things yeah, but it's still how people find me okay. So it means that that if someone wants to recommend me on a social media platform, they've got a link to do yeah, sure, okay, so just in the interest of completion and also finding you.
Speaker 2:Yeah and then yeah, whatever you're not just not going to find the current me on I think it's a really interesting like.
Speaker 1:I don't want to get too off topic, but I think that whole thing with social media and talking out in those kind of spaces is kind of like. There's just been this check, like this massive evolution in in like that networking online over the last, you know, since early two thousands. Really, we're just not adapted to deal with that way of behaving and interacting with each other and so, especially for like I think we're probably similar age where we haven't had it our entire lives and it's kind of started to come into our lives a little bit later, it just feels like you see younger people on there and it's like their norm and they interact quite differently, whereas I feel like it's there's yeah, there's like a missing part. It doesn't, doesn't flow.
Speaker 1:So it's almost like no, no, it was kind of a fun thing to catch up with your friends, right, and to see some photos of some people you went to school with. That's just exploded into this other thing, yeah, so that was a little bit of an aside, all right, let's talk about how our teeth and mouths might be holding us back, and you had four different areas in the email that you read that could be holding people back, so let's get into that. Do you want me to go through them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I can't remember.
Speaker 2:I can't remember Exactly, but I'm sure one of them was feeling, um, uh ashamed on self-conscious about how you look yeah, um, that really can hold people back, particularly if they've got, um, you know, visible, uh, problems with their teeth or gums in the front of their mouth discoloration, missing teeth, um, broken teeth, mismatched, um, you know, they've got a crown that doesn't match their natural teeth color, or um, or crooked teeth or all of those kind of things. So that that and and then this goes to social media and this instagram tiktok age, where everything is about the visual. The beauty standards of teeth have become really um, strong, rigid, uh, in the forefront of people's awareness. I think, with the close-up of the face being at this kind of standard the selfie, which doesn't put the whole person in context, it's just like the face and so many people getting whitening and veneers to try and look like some idea of I call it the Hollywood smile.
Speaker 2:Perfect, and the Hollywood smile was. You know why veneers were were invented. It was a dentist who you know set up practice outside the gates so I think it was Universal Studios and maybe Columbia, one of those anyway and it was like they sent all the stylists and you know um, wannabe actors and actresses to this particular dentist have their teeth straightened and whitened and veneered.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, wow, it's how much this is another slide? How much is the? How relevant is it like? Because, okay, going back a, my husband's two older kids both went to dentists and they had like gum guards put in to straighten their teeth. How important is it to straighten teeth?
Speaker 2:I think if you are unable to eat a healthy diet because your bite is so out of alignment Okay or you're unable to speak clearly because your bite is so out of alignment okay or you're unable to speak clearly because your bite is so out of alignment, then it is important to bring enough alignment and to be able to, like, lead a functional life. But I think that there's a um, this very rigid standard of everything being in perfectly straight and and um, and aligned is. It's purely cosmetic and it's, you know, it's I can't even say peer pressure, because it's a social pressure that is outside of the peer group.
Speaker 2:It's very yeah and it comes from the dentists and the orthodontists as well. They've got a lot invested in convincing you that it's really important to have straight teeth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, I was just curious because I know my, my little girl's got what she's got a little sticking out tooth and like she doesn't have any problems with anything, and I actually think it adds to her personality and her smile yeah, it's cute. It's not like I probably. I probably noticed it more than anyone, you know, just because you notice things, um. But um, yeah, I'm like oh, I don't even that.
Speaker 2:I just don't know that there's a need for it, but we're often told that there is right yes, but you know that's different from if self-consciousness about teeth is holding you back from smiling and speaking and laughing in public. Yeah, that's a different kind of dysfunction. Yeah and um, that is a socially imposed one.
Speaker 1:Yes, and if it's holding you back, then I guess, like we do hear of adults having braces and getting their teeth straightened a lot more probably now it's a big business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clear aligners yeah, changed that. Yeah, the whole clear aligner story. Anyway, that's a digression.
Speaker 1:Don't go down that rabbit hole. Might have some thoughts on that right okay pain is one of the other things that you said can hold people back from speaking it's so distracting.
Speaker 2:Anyone who's ever had a toothache knows it's a really special kind of pain, and that's in large part because the nerve endings in your mouth are really densely packed and so when you have swelling or inflammation or infection it doesn't just affect like one or two nerve endings. There's this whole network interconnected and so it can feel like big. But also it's only that pain only has to travel, you know, 10 centimeters to get from your tooth to the receptors in the back of your brain. It's like instant. Uh, it's not traveling for the way up. You know you stub your toe and that pain takes a while to get up to your brain.
Speaker 2:The tooth is right there and um, yeah, and so that kind of pain, it can interrupt your sleep and make you tired and foggy. Taking medication for it can make you foggy. It's just distracting it. I don't think people who are in a lot of pain are able to think as clearly or act as rationally and powerfully on in alignment with their values as people who are not in pain, and so it's. That's a real concern. I mean, it's just yuck.
Speaker 1:It's horrible to be in pain, but it really holds you back yeah, do you had some, um, unpleasant root canal experiences, right, which is kind of one of the reasons that led to you to this work? Yeah, so that's obviously painful. Is it painful like I haven't had it? It's obviously painful before the process and that's why they do the process. Um, but do you have people coming to you who don't want root canal?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, and are in pain. Yeah, and they work through that. Are they, for the most part, able to work through it?
Speaker 2:well, it depends. So it really depends on, uh, how much physical damage there is to the tooth, but quite often, um, and in my own experience, uh, it's been that a dentist will offer a root canal as a solution to a pain that they can't diagnose. Like they've looked, they've x-rayed, they've tapped and poked, and you know they're trying to figure out what's wrong, and they can't, and so they're like, well, we'll just take the nerve out to make it stop hurting.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, yeah yeah, it's bad, especially when they did that to me and they took out the nerve that next to the tooth that wasn't the one that was hurting, and I ended up having to go back a few days later and having another root canal, the one that was hurting. Oh my god, yeah, yeah, exactly and so, um, what does that?
Speaker 1:do the root? Do those? Is it based on the particular tooth? When you, when you look at it metaphysically, what's going on, what the underlying causes might be of the pain?
Speaker 2:So the system of tooth archetypes that I wrote about in my book the Secret Lives of Teeth recognizes particular strengths and vulnerabilities associated with each of the 32 adult teeth and I summarize them by describing them as archetypes. And I summarise them by describing them as archetypes. They are not literal descriptions necessarily. They're like almost like a set of questions that you can start to explore, but I do find the majority of people like really resonate with the tooth archetype description for the tooth that they're having the problem with.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah yeah, okay, so we've done.
Speaker 2:Shame and pain drain right, yeah, that's the, the drain on resources.
Speaker 2:So there's your inner resources, the, the kind of exhaustion of dealing with the problem, the pain, the amount of time that you spend like trying to figure out what's wrong with it and clean it properly, and you know searching on the Internet for solutions and hopefully finding me sooner than later, later, um, but also the the financial drain of you know going to the dentist, particularly if you don't have um, uh, you know, social, socially funded dentistry or in the right kind of insurance, and even then you can end up, you know, with co-pays or you know being drained financially, even if you it is being supported and supplemented and so, yeah, just those are energetic and financial resources that you could be putting towards doing things in your community or with your family, or to build your business or whatever it is that or whatever it is that is like your priority in terms of taking leadership or manifesting your authentic ideals in the world. Well, if that's all being sucked off into just dealing with this dental problem, it's holding you back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and not to mention, if you have self-esteem issues, the drain that that has on your emotional state oh yeah yeah, yeah, yes, okay. And then the last one of the four that you um wrote about in your email was prejudice prejudice.
Speaker 2:Yes, there's so much social pressure to have that kind of perfect smile and if you don't, people make assumptions about you. If you have anything visible wrong with your teeth that isn't repaired will lead people to assume that you're poor, you're probably stupid, that you don't care about you know you're not good at self-care and that you don't have other people that care about you. It's really hard to get a job or most jobs, certainly middle class and in public facing jobs if you've got like something visibly wrong in the front of your mouth. Well, most jobs, certainly middle class and public-facing jobs if you've got like something visibly wrong in the front of your mouth. So, yeah, that ability to be it's tied into that confidence thing you know, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's these, would you say. There are other things that might be holding people back from when it comes to, like their well, there, probably is, there's got to be when it comes to, um, their mouths and their teeth, um, you've got I can't I feel like you've kind of already touched on this like they're, they're holding things in and that that is, um, what's affecting their yeah, I think there's, you know, underlying issues, um, but I think the ones that people are conscious of this, that's kind of the pain, the drain, the shame.
Speaker 2:What was the other one? I said Prejudice, prejudice, that's right, it doesn't rhyme, so that's why I didn't remember it. Yeah, you know, I think those are the kind of the overt and obvious categories, but underlying it is a kind of complex tangle for many people of whatever their story is around feeling vulnerable if they speak up, if they were to speak up, being able to set boundaries, being heard and respected, um, you know the unique combination of experiences that you've had, that you uh have, um, tried different things and had different responses from it, and then that becomes part of your story that your mouth is telling yeah, different for everyone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, with the people that you work with, like you mentioned, that you work with a lot of coaches and people who want to have courses and that sort of thing. What are some of the results? Outcomes amazing stories have you have you um been witness to and help you know, help to support and guide people through? And what difference has it made to their being able to speak out?
Speaker 2:yeah, oh gosh, so many.
Speaker 2:It's been really lovely to see um people start businesses and um and build successful businesses where they've, um, you know, been able to be visible on social media and on their website and their podcast and, whatever you know, youtube, whatever else they need to do to to market their business and do that confidently and have the financial rewards of being successful in their business.
Speaker 2:And I've worked with a lot of performers, so like singers and actors and so on, who you might think would be. You know, because they're using their voice professionally, that they wouldn't be the people that would have these problems, but I think it's this authenticity that, uh, the, the sort of the demands and expectations of those professional spheres have contributed to the issues they've had with their mouth. Well, they've kind of overridden their own um, uh, intuition around what they're saying and how they're saying it and so on. And so the work that we do has enabled them to find a way forward through their careers as performers where they're able to do it from this like really centered um, strong, authentic voice yeah, do you find that you're working with people more on that stuff now, like, is it directly related to their dental health?
Speaker 1:like they they're a singer, for example, and they get an issue with a tooth or with their gums? Um, or are there people coming to you more because of that kind of wanting to be more authentic?
Speaker 2:is it? Oh, I think people come to me because they've got the physical symptom and yeah yeah, yeah that's what I, that's what I invite people to come and work on, and I always um, you know, that's my priority. Really, that's the deal that I'm making with my clients is I'm going to help you solve this problem in your mouth one way or another. Um, and the other stuff is part of the happy side effects of solving the physical problem with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cool, yeah do you feel that, like with this mention of the 2025 and the big shifts that are going to be happening in the first six months we're already in February, so we've made it through month one do you feel shifts in your business? Is there stuff? Do you feel like, like you and your role, your role as a leader, speaking up, do you feel that that's changing or not really, yeah, I mean it's always changing.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, I think I run my business in a very intuitive way and I do pay attention to the astrology when I'm making business plans. Basically, I'm not going to be doing anything like not launching anything not making any major steps until at least, uh, mid-june.
Speaker 2:I just think it was quite a hair-raising ride ahead of us and I just kind of want to keep my own personal part of the world on an even keel and keep delivering for my clients. Yeah, fair enough. And writing and so on, uh, yeah, I think I've come coming around to more acceptance that my strength is in writing rather than in speaking. Okay, I think I'm a bad speaker, but, um, that's where I express myself best and instead of um constantly second guessing that and trying to perform according to whatever the the um marketing fashion is of the moment. I mean, I never tried to do a TikTok video, but, thank god.
Speaker 2:But you know, I'm no longer kind of actively creating videos on YouTube the way that I was, but there's a library of 80 there that I've made in the past. There's plenty for people to watch, so I'd rather write books. There's something that feels very substantive about writing as a form of expression for me, and I've really, as I get older and I'm not far off 60, I'm thinking about legacy and what am I passing on that will stand the test of time and survive whatever changes happen in the digital world. This seems to me something that's very um potentially long lasting about a book yeah, lovely, I really love that.
Speaker 1:And, um, I think that it it's um, yeah, I mean, I'm going through my whole you know my own personal process with, and like just exploring and talking to different people about this idea of leadership and the way that we create our businesses, and or you know the things that we do and authenticity, and you know the inner work that comes along with that and it. Where am I going with this? Where am I going with this? It's important to know that you are having an impact with people like you who have written a book, written two books, and you know you're delivering quite a unique message in the world.
Speaker 1:But I feel like that's where we're at. We're kind of at this point where there is so much. We're kind of at this point where there is so much well, we've got so much knowledge and resources, but like having people like you that can kind of, you know, bring something new to the table and something that's like not just, you know, doing the same thing that we've been doing, because there's kind of oh look, I'm having a rant, but there's the get on your soapbox, there's, there is a shift.
Speaker 2:We can't keep doing the same old things right and you're at the you it's like you're at the, you're at the you.
Speaker 1:It's like you're at the, you're at the tipping point, like that. That point of change, the, the, the work that you do is at that point of change and it's taken courage to probably step out and do something that's out of the ordinary, but you know, you're proving that it's essential, um and like, opening up new possibilities to people and the way that they approach their mouths, their lives, their health, and bringing back that kind of intuitive wisdom that we have. When it comes to our potential to heal, yeah, there you go. Yeah, thank you. When it comes to our potential to heal, yeah, there you go. Yeah, and over, thank you. So, yeah, I love your work, Thank you, I really appreciate your time and, yeah, just really interesting to have this conversation where times are a changing, yeah, and we need to step up and um be speak out. Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't have to. Speaking out doesn't have to be a negative thing either, right, it's no, that's right.
Speaker 2:I think we need people who are able to describe the world that we want to have yeah instead of just criticizing the one that we're currently dealing with. You know that can't change unless we have a vision of an alternative in the future, so that's the kind of speaking out that I want to encourage people to do perfect, beautiful.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for joining me again. I've loved it.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much. It's always lovely to talk to you and your audience.
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